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| redslothx wrote: | | Blank wrote: | | redslothx wrote: | | Blank wrote: |
| redslothx wrote: | | Blank wrote: | Guns don't do anything good?
If there weren't any gun control laws and citizens could use firearms to defend themselves against criminals, shit wouldn't happen.
Even IF one dumbass tries to use his/her gun to do bad shit, everyone arond him with pull a fucking 9MM Glock to that shit's forehead before they'd get to do ANYTHING.
Don't say more criminals would get guns. They don't follow the laws anyway. Gun control only restricts the citizen.
You need a dose of Penn&Teller: BULLSHIT! |
sadly it doesnt work like that.
1. Its harder to kill a person than you can image. (Its not just "Bam" and they are dead, it has to do with mentallity)
2. Allowing everyone to use a gun will increase crime rates, it will increase accidental shootings.
3. Allowing everyon to use a gun isnt the wisest of moves. People get angry, they will use a gun.
4. A gun isnt a play toy to have around. Its dangerous. More dangerous than a car.
5. A gun isnt something to trust everyone with.
6. Go back to #1, a lot of people go through a series of mental challenges before even thinking about killing someone else. A real criminal would just snatch the gun and shoot the person.
7. You dont know when someone breaks into your house, and you dont expect someone to pull out a gun at you. In either case, you are dead.
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1. I suppose. They'll still die fast if shot in the vitals.
2. I can see that, yes.
3. Before they can utilize their gun, the would-be victim in a different scenario would pull out their own gun. If the criminal knew he'd have a chance at death, he'd be detered. No one wants to die. If both have a gun, the one intent on killing would be detered by the chance at death.
4. Cars kill people too.
5. I understand. Have a test in place, like Japan's.
6. And the victim could pull out their gun and tell them to shut the fuck up.
7. Again, a criminal would at least be detered. |
1. You missunderstood that keypoint. You all seem to think that just killing someone is an easy task. When faced with the decision, you will think differently.\
3. You missunderstood that keypoint too... Heres an example, A woman sees her husband cheating, she gets angry, and kills the husband and the other girl.
4. Its true that cars can kill, however, its not fatal unless done intentionally, which is almost never. Meaning a car isnt really a weapon. As for a gun, anyone can accidentally pick it up and kill themselves or others, example, Kids who find guns in drawers.
5. Im not talking about japans gun laws. Im saying that humans miss-use power, a gun would only make them more powerful and more dangerous. Crime/murder rates go up.
6. You missunder stood this just like you did with keypoint one. Its not as simple as it seems. 
7. I dont see how the dead can hold a gun and fire it.... |
1. Must have flown past me.
3. Lol'd. Women shouldn't have guns. I think that should be made clear, thanks. [Not being sarcastic.]
4. Not fatal unless done with intent? Drunk driving, etc...? I understood you none the less, and I won't argue with you because the death of children is a true fact. Although I blame the parents for not keeping their firearm safe or not teaching their children about firearms and their danger early on.
5. Yet, you don't think a criminal would be detered by the fact that someone is probably able to kill them or wound them back if they also had a weapon. Else, if found by another person they could pull out a gun and the criminal would be outnumbered.
6. Look above. More of a deterant than a weapon for use.
7. Bold criminal is bold. |
3. Women shouldnt have guns? in that case nobody should have the right to have a gun either, seeing as how laws affect every member of a society.
4. You dont tell a kid how to use a gun. Kids get in fight, they will kill accidentally/intentionally.
5. How was that even remotely related to trusting someone with a gun? I was talking about people using it for their personal gains.
6. If i was a criminal, and i broke into your house, do you really believe that im going to let you grab a gun? Or if you are in your car, whats to stop me from pulling out a gun and just shooting you before the thoughts even enter your head?
Also, stop thinking that guns are something to be treated lightly.
They arnt. They have strict laws against them worldwide for a reason. |
They aren't something to be treated lightly, I don't think I evar said that.
3. I won't get into that.
4. Why the fuck would kids have guns? I think its obvious only adults would have them in possesion. If it needs to be said: Only adults.
6. If you are such a good criminal that you could find me that quickly in my own home, sure. I'd be fucked. I doubt that.
5. People using guns for their personal gains are criminals.
I'm just saying.
There are guns in this country already. Criminals aren't going to get guns faster just because more stores will sell them. There are obvious background checks. Not only that, criminals DON'T OBEY LAWS. They'll get their hands on guns ANYWAY. These laws only fuck normal people.
Going to bed. I'll check out the thread in the morning.
Anywho, I'm already iffy on the idea because of what Link showed me.
So these are just old ideas I might toss I'm throwing at you.
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| Blank wrote: | | redslothx wrote: | | Blank wrote: | | redslothx wrote: | | Blank wrote: |
| redslothx wrote: | | Blank wrote: | Guns don't do anything good?
If there weren't any gun control laws and citizens could use firearms to defend themselves against criminals, shit wouldn't happen.
Even IF one dumbass tries to use his/her gun to do bad shit, everyone arond him with pull a fucking 9MM Glock to that shit's forehead before they'd get to do ANYTHING.
Don't say more criminals would get guns. They don't follow the laws anyway. Gun control only restricts the citizen.
You need a dose of Penn&Teller: BULLSHIT! |
sadly it doesnt work like that.
1. Its harder to kill a person than you can image. (Its not just "Bam" and they are dead, it has to do with mentallity)
2. Allowing everyone to use a gun will increase crime rates, it will increase accidental shootings.
3. Allowing everyon to use a gun isnt the wisest of moves. People get angry, they will use a gun.
4. A gun isnt a play toy to have around. Its dangerous. More dangerous than a car.
5. A gun isnt something to trust everyone with.
6. Go back to #1, a lot of people go through a series of mental challenges before even thinking about killing someone else. A real criminal would just snatch the gun and shoot the person.
7. You dont know when someone breaks into your house, and you dont expect someone to pull out a gun at you. In either case, you are dead.
Guns arnt toys for everyone to have. |
1. I suppose. They'll still die fast if shot in the vitals.
2. I can see that, yes.
3. Before they can utilize their gun, the would-be victim in a different scenario would pull out their own gun. If the criminal knew he'd have a chance at death, he'd be detered. No one wants to die. If both have a gun, the one intent on killing would be detered by the chance at death.
4. Cars kill people too.
5. I understand. Have a test in place, like Japan's.
6. And the victim could pull out their gun and tell them to shut the fuck up.
7. Again, a criminal would at least be detered. |
1. You missunderstood that keypoint. You all seem to think that just killing someone is an easy task. When faced with the decision, you will think differently.\
3. You missunderstood that keypoint too... Heres an example, A woman sees her husband cheating, she gets angry, and kills the husband and the other girl.
4. Its true that cars can kill, however, its not fatal unless done intentionally, which is almost never. Meaning a car isnt really a weapon. As for a gun, anyone can accidentally pick it up and kill themselves or others, example, Kids who find guns in drawers.
5. Im not talking about japans gun laws. Im saying that humans miss-use power, a gun would only make them more powerful and more dangerous. Crime/murder rates go up.
6. You missunder stood this just like you did with keypoint one. Its not as simple as it seems.
7. I dont see how the dead can hold a gun and fire it.... |
1. Must have flown past me.
3. Lol'd. Women shouldn't have guns. I think that should be made clear, thanks. [Not being sarcastic.]
4. Not fatal unless done with intent? Drunk driving, etc...? I understood you none the less, and I won't argue with you because the death of children is a true fact. Although I blame the parents for not keeping their firearm safe or not teaching their children about firearms and their danger early on.
5. Yet, you don't think a criminal would be detered by the fact that someone is probably able to kill them or wound them back if they also had a weapon. Else, if found by another person they could pull out a gun and the criminal would be outnumbered.
6. Look above. More of a deterant than a weapon for use.
7. Bold criminal is bold. |
3. Women shouldnt have guns? in that case nobody should have the right to have a gun either, seeing as how laws affect every member of a society.
4. You dont tell a kid how to use a gun. Kids get in fight, they will kill accidentally/intentionally.
5. How was that even remotely related to trusting someone with a gun? I was talking about people using it for their personal gains.
6. If i was a criminal, and i broke into your house, do you really believe that im going to let you grab a gun? Or if you are in your car, whats to stop me from pulling out a gun and just shooting you before the thoughts even enter your head?
Also, stop thinking that guns are something to be treated lightly.
They arnt. They have strict laws against them worldwide for a reason. |
They aren't something to be treated lightly, I don't think I evar said that.
3. I won't get into that.
4. Why the fuck would kids have guns? I think its obvious only adults would have them in possesion. If it needs to be said: Only adults.
6. If you are such a good criminal that you could find me that quickly in my own home, sure. I'd be fucked. I doubt that.
5. People using guns for their personal gains are criminals.
I'm just saying.
There are guns in this country already. Criminals aren't going to get guns faster just because more stores will sell them. There are obvious background checks. Not only that, criminals DON'T OBEY LAWS. They'll get their hands on guns ANYWAY. These laws only fuck normal people.
Going to bed. I'll check out the thread in the morning.
Anywho, I'm already iffy on the idea because of what Link showed me.
So these are just old ideas I might toss I'm throwing at you. |
4. Whos the idiot who said "teach kids to use firearms"? You are. Please, make sure you know wth you are talking about. Also, if a kid knows how to use a gun, now that everyone has a gun, i doubt it would be that hard to find one in a house.
5. Then congrats on creating more criminals by giving everyone guns. And you still didnt understand this keypoint Give everyone a gun, and there would be a huge amount of idiots who will missuse it, use it for personal gain, and use it for harm. This be including the previous criminals, and the ones that havent done anything yet but now they can because they all have guns~ I dont know how to explain that humans abuse power for personal gain. Right now im guessing you are too young to know any of this based on your answers.
6. I dont have to be a good criminal to catch you when you least expect it or to catch you unarmed. it happens quite alot these days.
Its funny, but a criminal steals a gun quite easily, background checks dont do anything unless they have been caught before. idiot. Must guns are owned/stolen by criminals. Allowing everyone the right to a gun would only give them more resources.
Like i said, there are laws against guns for a reason, and that is because people always missuse them. Imagine 6.7billion people with guns. Imagine the crime/murder rates that would go up.
Seriously, how old are you?
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| redslothx wrote: | | Blank wrote: | | redslothx wrote: | | Blank wrote: | | redslothx wrote: | | Blank wrote: |
| redslothx wrote: | | Blank wrote: | Guns don't do anything good?
If there weren't any gun control laws and citizens could use firearms to defend themselves against criminals, shit wouldn't happen.
Even IF one dumbass tries to use his/her gun to do bad shit, everyone arond him with pull a fucking 9MM Glock to that shit's forehead before they'd get to do ANYTHING.
Don't say more criminals would get guns. They don't follow the laws anyway. Gun control only restricts the citizen.
You need a dose of Penn&Teller: BULLSHIT! |
sadly it doesnt work like that.
1. Its harder to kill a person than you can image. (Its not just "Bam" and they are dead, it has to do with mentallity)
2. Allowing everyone to use a gun will increase crime rates, it will increase accidental shootings.
3. Allowing everyon to use a gun isnt the wisest of moves. People get angry, they will use a gun.
4. A gun isnt a play toy to have around. Its dangerous. More dangerous than a car.
5. A gun isnt something to trust everyone with.
6. Go back to #1, a lot of people go through a series of mental challenges before even thinking about killing someone else. A real criminal would just snatch the gun and shoot the person.
7. You dont know when someone breaks into your house, and you dont expect someone to pull out a gun at you. In either case, you are dead.
Guns arnt toys for everyone to have. |
1. I suppose. They'll still die fast if shot in the vitals.
2. I can see that, yes.
3. Before they can utilize their gun, the would-be victim in a different scenario would pull out their own gun. If the criminal knew he'd have a chance at death, he'd be detered. No one wants to die. If both have a gun, the one intent on killing would be detered by the chance at death.
4. Cars kill people too.
5. I understand. Have a test in place, like Japan's.
6. And the victim could pull out their gun and tell them to shut the fuck up.
7. Again, a criminal would at least be detered. |
1. You missunderstood that keypoint. You all seem to think that just killing someone is an easy task. When faced with the decision, you will think differently.\
3. You missunderstood that keypoint too... Heres an example, A woman sees her husband cheating, she gets angry, and kills the husband and the other girl.
4. Its true that cars can kill, however, its not fatal unless done intentionally, which is almost never. Meaning a car isnt really a weapon. As for a gun, anyone can accidentally pick it up and kill themselves or others, example, Kids who find guns in drawers.
5. Im not talking about japans gun laws. Im saying that humans miss-use power, a gun would only make them more powerful and more dangerous. Crime/murder rates go up.
6. You missunder stood this just like you did with keypoint one. Its not as simple as it seems.
7. I dont see how the dead can hold a gun and fire it.... |
1. Must have flown past me.
3. Lol'd. Women shouldn't have guns. I think that should be made clear, thanks. [Not being sarcastic.]
4. Not fatal unless done with intent? Drunk driving, etc...? I understood you none the less, and I won't argue with you because the death of children is a true fact. Although I blame the parents for not keeping their firearm safe or not teaching their children about firearms and their danger early on.
5. Yet, you don't think a criminal would be detered by the fact that someone is probably able to kill them or wound them back if they also had a weapon. Else, if found by another person they could pull out a gun and the criminal would be outnumbered.
6. Look above. More of a deterant than a weapon for use.
7. Bold criminal is bold. |
3. Women shouldnt have guns? in that case nobody should have the right to have a gun either, seeing as how laws affect every member of a society.
4. You dont tell a kid how to use a gun. Kids get in fight, they will kill accidentally/intentionally.
5. How was that even remotely related to trusting someone with a gun? I was talking about people using it for their personal gains.
6. If i was a criminal, and i broke into your house, do you really believe that im going to let you grab a gun? Or if you are in your car, whats to stop me from pulling out a gun and just shooting you before the thoughts even enter your head?
Also, stop thinking that guns are something to be treated lightly.
They arnt. They have strict laws against them worldwide for a reason. |
They aren't something to be treated lightly, I don't think I evar said that.
3. I won't get into that.
4. Why the fuck would kids have guns? I think its obvious only adults would have them in possesion. If it needs to be said: Only adults.
6. If you are such a good criminal that you could find me that quickly in my own home, sure. I'd be fucked. I doubt that.
5. People using guns for their personal gains are criminals.
I'm just saying.
There are guns in this country already. Criminals aren't going to get guns faster just because more stores will sell them. There are obvious background checks. Not only that, criminals DON'T OBEY LAWS. They'll get their hands on guns ANYWAY. These laws only fuck normal people.
Going to bed. I'll check out the thread in the morning.
Anywho, I'm already iffy on the idea because of what Link showed me.
So these are just old ideas I might toss I'm throwing at you. |
4. Whos the idiot who said "teach kids to use firearms"? You are. Please, make sure you know wth you are talking about. Also, if a kid knows how to use a gun, now that everyone has a gun, i doubt it would be that hard to find one in a house.
5. Then congrats on creating more criminals by giving everyone guns. And you still didnt understand this keypoint Give everyone a gun, and there would be a huge amount of idiots who will missuse it, use it for personal gain, and use it for harm. This be including the previous criminals, and the ones that havent done anything yet but now they can because they all have guns~ I dont know how to explain that humans abuse power for personal gain. Right now im guessing you are too young to know any of this based on your answers.
6. I dont have to be a good criminal to catch you when you least expect it or to catch you unarmed. it happens quite alot these days.
Its funny, but a criminal steals a gun quite easily, background checks dont do anything unless they have been caught before. idiot. Must guns are owned/stolen by criminals. Allowing everyone the right to a gun would only give them more resources.
Like i said, there are laws against guns for a reason, and that is because people always missuse them. Imagine 6.7billion people with guns. Imagine the crime/murder rates that would go up.
Seriously, how old are you? |
This arguement is over.
The child is the person who begin's to attack another's ideas just because you don't fucking agree. It was decent until you started acting like a prick. Attacking age and shit. Real nice, but all aside from the fucking point.
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all humans with power are pricks
get it through your head. a gun isnt a toy for everyone.
a kid grows up in a world of guns will grow up using them, or will use them later on.
there are plenty of morons who think a gun is fun and just threaten everyone, there are plenty of people who commit murder, there are plenty of people who die because of guns every day. imagine everyone with a gun.
Again, guns are illegal for a reason.
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| redslothx wrote: | all humans with power are pricks
get it through your head. a gun isnt a toy for everyone.
a kid grows up in a world of guns will grow up using them, or will use them later on.
there are plenty of morons who think a gun is fun and just threaten everyone, there are plenty of people who commit murder, there are plenty of people who die because of guns every day. imagine everyone with a gun.
Again, guns are illegal for a reason. |
New question.
Do guns kill or do people kill?
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I so wanted that question to be asked~
People with guns kill
They use the gun to kill.
Thank you for giving me backup on my argument ~
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| redslothx wrote: | I so wanted that question to be asked~
People with guns kill
They use the gun to kill.
Thank you for giving me backup on my argument ~ |
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