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oib111
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Why?
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 2:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Hmmm...That makes sense. After all, hookhoping is muchhhhhhh easier than piping.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 2:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Why?


Hooked multiple levels deep in Ring0.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 2:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Flyte wrote:
No way, you can do what I do lately, make an exe with a .reloc section so it can inject itself. This requires you to re-code a bit of the PE loader however. This also gets rid of a lot of detectability issues as you are manually loading the file into the process.

Rather fun. Smile

I just thought of that too. Smile
Just wasn't sure how.
How can I add an import to an executeable?
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I just thought of that too. Smile
Just wasn't sure how.
How can I add an import to an executeable?


Imports are already added by the linker, what you want is a .reloc section so you can rebase it anytime you want.

Linker option: /FIXED:NO
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Flyte wrote:
oib111 wrote:
Why?


Hooked multiple levels deep in Ring0.


That's what I thought:

oib111 wrote:

WPM is hooked in kernelmode right?


Btw, is there any place that explains everything in the category of PE Header, and .reloc, .data, .text, etc sections? I used to know some about that, but I forgot xD
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Flyte wrote:
Symbol wrote:
I just thought of that too. Smile
Just wasn't sure how.
How can I add an import to an executeable?


Imports are already added by the linker, what you want is a .reloc section so you can rebase it anytime you want.

Linker option: /FIXED:NO


CAn you help me with this, or no? Cool
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 3:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
kitterz wrote:
Flyte wrote:
Imports are already added by the linker, what you want is a .reloc section so you can rebase it anytime you want.

Linker option: /FIXED:NO


CAn you help me with this, or no? Cool


Learn how to inject a dll first before you attempt to do somthing like this.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Flyte wrote:
kitterz wrote:
Flyte wrote:
Imports are already added by the linker, what you want is a .reloc section so you can rebase it anytime you want.

Linker option: /FIXED:NO


CAn you help me with this, or no? Cool


Learn how to inject a dll first before you attempt to do something like this.


I know how...and also how to make one.

Edit: Cam you post/pm me the source of a sample implementation of it? I learn much better visually and by example than by reading.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 12:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Flyte wrote:
No way, you can do what I do lately, make an exe with a .reloc section so it can inject itself. This requires you to re-code a bit of the PE loader however. This also gets rid of a lot of detectability issues as you are manually loading the file into the process.

Rather fun. Smile


Something like this was posted on GD, mapping the exe into the target process and then calling the second entrypoint of itself - both WinMain and DLLMain inside one exe.
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