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TheKahvi
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 6:28 am    Post subject: Which language to choose? Reply with quote

I want to learn programming but I don't know which one to choose.

I know some basic things about C so I decided to choose that.
But then I noticed that there are C#, C++, Visual C++ and maybe more. >_>

Which should I choose to be able to make useful programs like calculator or calendar and so on
AND
I want to be able to make cheats/hacks/bots for games too.
(I like how Dark_Walk, nForce, symbol, kiki and some other people are kinda respected/famous =D)

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Please, don't come here saying that my hopes are too high to create a succesful bot or something... =S
I know it WILL take time to get that good.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 7:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In programming, when you're talking about a language, you're probably referring to it's syntax. Some compilers may add their features to make your life easier (and of course people usually try to reach a standard), but all in all, remember you're talking about binary - the closer you get to it, the more control you'll have over your application. If you like having an easy life, select C#, if you want to actually work, go with C\C++ (C++ is an extention to C).
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 9:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What in C# makes my life that much easier?

I'm currently looking towards C++.


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You have that WZ viewer link in your sig so you might know how can I get off sets for Europe Maplestory?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 2:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As you can see, I've been a member of this forum for about 2 years now, and I too have finally taken the initiative to learn a coding language. Sorry for bringing this out of the dump, but what exactly was meant by C# is the easiest? With next to no experience, which language would be in my best interest to pursue and start off with?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 4:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Eh, I would say java... but seems like you already learning C++
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 7:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

im not sure about being easier, but C# is the only C that is .net capable, i spose that could be why its easier
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 10:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, you would recommend C# then?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 10:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

C# is based on the .Net framework.

All of these languages depends on what you want to do & the time you want to do it in.

If you're going to learn C++, its going to take maybe a month or two to get a Bot working/trainer.

I am currently learning C++, and it is SO MUCH HARDER THAN ANYTHING I'VE SEEN on the .Net framework. I know VB.Net, and i've made many trainers, bots, programs, etc, just using VB.Net.

So if you want to make something quick and not spend months learning, I would go with C#/VB.Net

If you want to spend time learning a language that will help you in the future create programs that are outstanding, go with C++

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 11:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well..to start with, I want to make little self programs to make general computing easier. Then eventually I'd like to make a bot for MS. I think im going to start with VB.NET. I'm sure I'll see you around, Thanks.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 12:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

manc wrote:
Well..to start with, I want to make little self programs to make general computing easier. Then eventually I'd like to make a bot for MS. I think im going to start with VB.NET. I'm sure I'll see you around, Thanks.


I wouldnt say VB.net, take Delphi instead of VB, Delphi might be a little better.
But still, i suggest you to go to any C language (C#, C, C++), all of them can do bots for MS....
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 3:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you saying that dephi is easier? Orr...why should i use delphi over VB.NET because andrewman seems to think that thats the way to go.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do not start with a .net language.

Start with C/C++.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 4:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

C# is easier to use in my opinion.
But you need to choose for yourself, not someone to recommend you one and you go straight there.

I recommend C# its a nice language just ask samurai Smile

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Snootae wrote:
im not sure about being easier, but C# is the only C that is .net capable, i spose that could be why its easier


Uh no? C++ can use .NET as well.


I would say just learn C/C++ then move into other languages as you go along. C/C++ will be a lot more useful in the hacking scene with todays games and protections while .NET will limit you to what you can do and what you can bypass.

If you would rather learn programming for more of a career, C# / VB.NET and Java would get you a job faster with mot companies, while C/C++ would be more of a gaming industry language for hire.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Learning VB first doesn't help out a whole lot when learning a language like delphi/C. You may know what a while loop, etc is, but you come into the language with a lot of unhelpful notions. Delphi/C may take a while longer to learn than VB, but I think it would take less time to go from C>VB than VB>C as you'd pretty much have to learn C from scratch even if you already knew VB.
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