 |
Cheat Engine
The Official Site of Cheat Engine
|
| View previous topic :: View next topic |
| Author |
Message |
Symbol
I'm a spammer
![]() Reputation: 0
Joined: 18 Apr 2007
Posts: 5094
Location: Israel.
|
 Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 9:13 am Post subject: DirectX vs. OpenGL? |
 |
|
Hi, I wanna start learning about graphics and making games and such and I wonder what should I learn, DirectX or OpenGL?
What are the diffrances?
There are a lot of OpenGL tutorials at nehe.gamedev.net, so I already have somewhere to learn OpenGL, but should I really learn OpenGL? or should I DirectX?
Edit: also, should I learn DirectX/OpenGL in C# or C++?
|
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
colo
Expert Cheater
 Reputation: 1
Joined: 09 Apr 2005
Posts: 111
|
| Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 9:41 am Post subject: |
|
|
1) C/C++
2) OPENGL!!!
_________________
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Symbol
I'm a spammer
![]() Reputation: 0
Joined: 18 Apr 2007
Posts: 5094
Location: Israel.
|
| Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 9:48 am Post subject: |
|
|
| Why? how is OpenGL better than DirectX?
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
colo
Expert Cheater
Reputation: 1
Joined: 09 Apr 2005
Posts: 111
|
| Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 9:51 am Post subject: |
|
|
OpenGL is http://www.gnu.org 
_________________
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Robotex
Master Cheater
 Reputation: 0
Joined: 05 Sep 2006
Posts: 378
Location: The pizza country!
|
| Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 10:33 am Post subject: |
|
|
directx if you're going to develop high performance/commercial applications
_________________
ASM/C++ Coder
Project Speranza lead developer |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
colo
Expert Cheater
Reputation: 1
Joined: 09 Apr 2005
Posts: 111
|
| Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 10:35 am Post subject: |
|
|
yes but, but now idea is free source
nah nah mocosoft!
_________________
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Symbol
I'm a spammer
![]() Reputation: 0
Joined: 18 Apr 2007
Posts: 5094
Location: Israel.
|
| Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 11:09 am Post subject: |
|
|
| Robotex wrote: | | directx if you're going to develop high performance/commercial applications |
What about games?
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
atom0s
Moderator
 Reputation: 205
Joined: 25 Jan 2006
Posts: 8587
Location: 127.0.0.1
|
| Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 11:15 am Post subject: Re: DirectX vs. OpenGL? |
|
|
| Symbol wrote: | Hi, I wanna start learning about graphics and making games and such and I wonder what should I learn, DirectX or OpenGL?
What are the diffrances?
There are a lot of OpenGL tutorials at nehe.gamedev.net, so I already have somewhere to learn OpenGL, but should I really learn OpenGL? or should I DirectX?
Edit: also, should I learn DirectX/OpenGL in C# or C++? |
For the language, I would personally suggest C++, however, C# is very powerful in the game field as well with DirectX.
As for the engine, depends on what you plan to do. Firstly, the difference between the two, well at least the main one, is that DirectX includes interface classes for everything you could need. Such as:
- Input devices (DirectInput) (Controllers, Keyboard, Mouse, etc.)
- Sound Output (DirectMusic/DirectSound)
- Drawing (Direct3D/DirectDraw)
- Networking (DirectPlay)
DirectX offers all this in one go to make it easier developing games that require little to no outside resources.
OpenGL on the other hand you would usually locate a 3rd party lib to do the overall window creation and drawing, such as GLUT. GLUT includes input device handling, window creation, and drawing but nothing else. Meaning you will also have to use more outside resources for sound, networking, etc.
However, the advantage of OpenGL is that it is developed for Cross-Platform development, while DirectX is only natively supported on Windows. (You can run DirectX on Linux systems and such but they require a virtual machine like application such as Wine and so on.)
When you pick, keep the above in mind.
_________________
- Retired. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
hcavolsdsadgadsg
I'm a spammer
![]() Reputation: 26
Joined: 11 Jun 2007
Posts: 5801
|
| Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 11:23 am Post subject: |
|
|
Write a software renderer, hurrr
DirectX is taking over for sure, but you're not going to get cross platform support unless you have an OpenGL path.
OpenGL is arguably cleaner and nicer to look at than DirectX, but I hear DX10 cleaned a hell of a lot up.
The entire Quake 3 engine is open source now, go take a look at that for your OpenGL fix. It's in C.
Games are moving into deferred renders as well, so be sure to look into that as well.
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Symbol
I'm a spammer
![]() Reputation: 0
Joined: 18 Apr 2007
Posts: 5094
Location: Israel.
|
| Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 12:58 pm Post subject: Re: DirectX vs. OpenGL? |
|
|
| Wiccaan wrote: | | Symbol wrote: | Hi, I wanna start learning about graphics and making games and such and I wonder what should I learn, DirectX or OpenGL?
What are the diffrances?
There are a lot of OpenGL tutorials at nehe.gamedev.net, so I already have somewhere to learn OpenGL, but should I really learn OpenGL? or should I DirectX?
Edit: also, should I learn DirectX/OpenGL in C# or C++? |
For the language, I would personally suggest C++, however, C# is very powerful in the game field as well with DirectX.
As for the engine, depends on what you plan to do. Firstly, the difference between the two, well at least the main one, is that DirectX includes interface classes for everything you could need. Such as:
- Input devices (DirectInput) (Controllers, Keyboard, Mouse, etc.)
- Sound Output (DirectMusic/DirectSound)
- Drawing (Direct3D/DirectDraw)
- Networking (DirectPlay)
DirectX offers all this in one go to make it easier developing games that require little to no outside resources.
OpenGL on the other hand you would usually locate a 3rd party lib to do the overall window creation and drawing, such as GLUT. GLUT includes input device handling, window creation, and drawing but nothing else. Meaning you will also have to use more outside resources for sound, networking, etc.
However, the advantage of OpenGL is that it is developed for Cross-Platform development, while DirectX is only natively supported on Windows. (You can run DirectX on Linux systems and such but they require a virtual machine like application such as Wine and so on.)
When you pick, keep the above in mind. |
I'm more interested in coding games, so you're saying I should choose DirectX, because it includes everything in it?
| slovach wrote: | Write a software renderer, hurrr
DirectX is taking over for sure, but you're not going to get cross platform support unless you have an OpenGL path.
OpenGL is arguably cleaner and nicer to look at than DirectX, but I hear DX10 cleaned a hell of a lot up.
The entire Quake 3 engine is open source now, go take a look at that for your OpenGL fix. It's in C.
Games are moving into deferred renders as well, so be sure to look into that as well. |
So you're saying OpenGL code is cleaner than DirectX? both looks complicated to me. 
I only used OpenGL in C++ and DirectX in C#, but I'm pretty sure it looks the same in both languages.
So if I wanna code a game, a simple one, character, monster, platforms, events on collisions, attacking skills, should I do it in DirectX then?
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
atom0s
Moderator
Reputation: 205
Joined: 25 Jan 2006
Posts: 8587
Location: 127.0.0.1
|
| Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 1:31 pm Post subject: |
|
|
I would personally suggest going with DirectX cause I personally find it easier then OpenGL. However, I do agree with others opinions that OpenGL code is a bit cleaner looking as well as more optimized and such.
If you don't plan to create something to be used on anything but Windows, I would suggest sticking with DirectX to start with. Once you learn one it will be easier for you to move into the other at a later point in time. (To a point.)
_________________
- Retired. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
HalfPrime
Grandmaster Cheater
![]() Reputation: 0
Joined: 12 Mar 2008
Posts: 532
Location: Right there...On your monitor
|
| Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 7:05 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Quote: | | So if I wanna code a game, a simple one, character, monster, platforms, events on collisions, attacking skills, should I do it in DirectX then? |
I don't think much of this would matter whether you used DX or OpenGL, since this is, for the most part, your game engine. I wrote a game using SDL, but if I wanted it to use anything else, all I'd really have to change is the initialization and the rendering and message loops.
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You can download files in this forum
|
|
FAQ
Search
Memberlist
Usergroups
Register
Profile
Log in to check your private messages
Log in
