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FIRST POST WOOT!
Id much rather become more well known on this board as someone who wants to contribute before Im known as a maplestory leecher, so...
Im currently learning Ruby programming language, and Im a pretty low beginner at it. Im working on a program in it right now that simply asks you things in the personality of an angry boss, and gives you 4 choices. If you choose the right series of choices, then he 'gives you a raise'.
I was wondering at what point do I move from Ruby onward to C++ or Delphi. I tried to learn both of these first, but the whole thing about compilers through me off as I couldnt find any good ones that didnt cost me money
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What the hell is ruby?
And if you're starting off google Visual Basic Express. It is made by microsoft. I have made so many applications.
If you are looking to make a maplestory trainer, than google Visual C++.
Although, it takes many months of work to make a maplestory trainer, as many of the variables are very hard to find, and hard to work with.
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Well, I don't know anything about Ruby, C++, or Delphi for that matter cause I'm just really learning Delphi.
I do know that if you wanna go to C++, there are plenty of free compilers.
I'd suggest DevC++ I believe it is, it's in the stickys.
And if you're up for it, you can find Borland Delphi on here with a keygen.
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| AndrewMan wrote: | What the hell is ruby?
And if you're starting off google Visual Basic Express. It is made by microsoft. I have made so many applications.
If you are looking to make a maplestory trainer, than google Visual C++.
Although, it takes many months of work to make a maplestory trainer, as many of the variables are very hard to find, and hard to work with. |
Ruby is a super basic OOP language Ive started learning.
Visual Basic Express... sounds familiar
Used in crackme's at all?
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| BasketCase wrote: | | AndrewMan wrote: | What the hell is ruby?
And if you're starting off google Visual Basic Express. It is made by microsoft. I have made so many applications.
If you are looking to make a maplestory trainer, than google Visual C++.
Although, it takes many months of work to make a maplestory trainer, as many of the variables are very hard to find, and hard to work with. |
Ruby is a super basic OOP language Ive started learning.
Visual Basic Express... sounds familiar
Used in crackme's at all? |
Do not, under any circumstance, start leaning Visual Basic. I suggest you learn C++. (Visual C++ is the best compiler if you're only looking at developing for Windows.)
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| haxory' wrote: | can't VB do anything??
windows is programmed using VB right? correct me if im wrong.
so all things in windows you have like the start menu is a windows form too. |
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BasketCase
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| Xenophobe wrote: | | BasketCase wrote: | | AndrewMan wrote: | What the hell is ruby?
And if you're starting off google Visual Basic Express. It is made by microsoft. I have made so many applications.
If you are looking to make a maplestory trainer, than google Visual C++.
Although, it takes many months of work to make a maplestory trainer, as many of the variables are very hard to find, and hard to work with. |
Ruby is a super basic OOP language Ive started learning.
Visual Basic Express... sounds familiar
Used in crackme's at all? |
Do not, under any circumstance start leaning Visual Basic. I suggest you learn C++. (Visual C++ is the best compiler if you're only looking at developing for Windows.) |
I know I wanted to eventually get up to C++
My friends and I are planning this spoof of a game to make for our project in three years. I figured C++ would be a good language to base the game in, and none of my other friends even know the definition of programming ><
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| BasketCase wrote: | | Xenophobe wrote: | | BasketCase wrote: | | AndrewMan wrote: | What the hell is ruby?
And if you're starting off google Visual Basic Express. It is made by microsoft. I have made so many applications.
If you are looking to make a maplestory trainer, than google Visual C++.
Although, it takes many months of work to make a maplestory trainer, as many of the variables are very hard to find, and hard to work with. |
Ruby is a super basic OOP language Ive started learning.
Visual Basic Express... sounds familiar
Used in crackme's at all? |
Do not, under any circumstance start leaning Visual Basic. I suggest you learn C++. (Visual C++ is the best compiler if you're only looking at developing for Windows.) |
I know I wanted to eventually get up to C++
My friends and I are planning this spoof of a game to make for our project in three years. I figured C++ would be a good language to base the game in, and none of my other friends even know the definition of programming >< |
C++ isn't hard, learning it now would be good. Just don't look into 3D game programming when you start. 
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| haxory' wrote: | can't VB do anything??
windows is programmed using VB right? correct me if im wrong.
so all things in windows you have like the start menu is a windows form too. |
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BasketCase
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| Xenophobe wrote: | | BasketCase wrote: | | Xenophobe wrote: | | BasketCase wrote: | | AndrewMan wrote: | What the hell is ruby?
And if you're starting off google Visual Basic Express. It is made by microsoft. I have made so many applications.
If you are looking to make a maplestory trainer, than google Visual C++.
Although, it takes many months of work to make a maplestory trainer, as many of the variables are very hard to find, and hard to work with. |
Ruby is a super basic OOP language Ive started learning.
Visual Basic Express... sounds familiar
Used in crackme's at all? |
Do not, under any circumstance start leaning Visual Basic. I suggest you learn C++. (Visual C++ is the best compiler if you're only looking at developing for Windows.) |
I know I wanted to eventually get up to C++
My friends and I are planning this spoof of a game to make for our project in three years. I figured C++ would be a good language to base the game in, and none of my other friends even know the definition of programming >< |
C++ isn't hard, learning it now would be good. Just don't look into 3D game programming when you start. |
Haha no, I dont have to look into it for a few years. Im mostly looking to make basic applications with UIs rather than command line usage for now.
Downloading Visual C++ now
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| BasketCase wrote: | | Xenophobe wrote: | | BasketCase wrote: | | Xenophobe wrote: | | BasketCase wrote: | | AndrewMan wrote: | What the hell is ruby?
And if you're starting off google Visual Basic Express. It is made by microsoft. I have made so many applications.
If you are looking to make a maplestory trainer, than google Visual C++.
Although, it takes many months of work to make a maplestory trainer, as many of the variables are very hard to find, and hard to work with. |
Ruby is a super basic OOP language Ive started learning.
Visual Basic Express... sounds familiar
Used in crackme's at all? |
Do not, under any circumstance start leaning Visual Basic. I suggest you learn C++. (Visual C++ is the best compiler if you're only looking at developing for Windows.) |
I know I wanted to eventually get up to C++
My friends and I are planning this spoof of a game to make for our project in three years. I figured C++ would be a good language to base the game in, and none of my other friends even know the definition of programming >< |
C++ isn't hard, learning it now would be good. Just don't look into 3D game programming when you start. |
Haha no, I dont have to look into it for a few years. Im mostly looking to make basic applications with UIs rather than command line usage for now.
Downloading Visual C++ now |
Here's some code to make your first app (win32 console) :
| Code: | #include "stdafx.h"
#include <iostream>
#include <conio.h>
int _tmain(int argc, _TCHAR* argv[])
{
std::cout << "Hello World!\n";
std::cout << "Press any key to exit... ";
getch();
return 0;
} |
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| haxory' wrote: | can't VB do anything??
windows is programmed using VB right? correct me if im wrong.
so all things in windows you have like the start menu is a windows form too. |
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BasketCase
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| Xenophobe wrote: | | BasketCase wrote: | | Xenophobe wrote: | | BasketCase wrote: | | Xenophobe wrote: | | BasketCase wrote: | | AndrewMan wrote: | What the hell is ruby?
And if you're starting off google Visual Basic Express. It is made by microsoft. I have made so many applications.
If you are looking to make a maplestory trainer, than google Visual C++.
Although, it takes many months of work to make a maplestory trainer, as many of the variables are very hard to find, and hard to work with. |
Ruby is a super basic OOP language Ive started learning.
Visual Basic Express... sounds familiar
Used in crackme's at all? |
Do not, under any circumstance start leaning Visual Basic. I suggest you learn C++. (Visual C++ is the best compiler if you're only looking at developing for Windows.) |
I know I wanted to eventually get up to C++
My friends and I are planning this spoof of a game to make for our project in three years. I figured C++ would be a good language to base the game in, and none of my other friends even know the definition of programming >< |
C++ isn't hard, learning it now would be good. Just don't look into 3D game programming when you start. |
Haha no, I dont have to look into it for a few years. Im mostly looking to make basic applications with UIs rather than command line usage for now.
Downloading Visual C++ now |
Here's some code to make your first app (win32 console) :
| Code: | #include "stdafx.h"
#include <iostream>
#include <conio.h>
int _tmain(int argc, _TCHAR* argv[])
{
std::cout << "Hello World!";
std::cout << "Press any key to exit... ";
getch();
return 0;
} |
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Gah!
I learn nothing when you just give me the code
But thank you, looks pretty... complex o.o compared to ruby...
Sample ruby code:
| Code: | # Melissa's address
melissa_addr = {
"street" => "23 St George St.",
"city" => "Silver Spring",
"state" => "MD",
"zip" => "20465"
}
# Sandy's address
sandy_addr = {
"street" => "324 Campus Dr.",
"city" => "College Park",
"state" => "MD",
"zip" => "23659"
}
# Joe's address
joe_addr = {
"street" => "43 Main St. W",
"city" => "Washington",
"state" => "DC",
"zip" => "29847"
}
#---------------------------------------
# Joe
joe = {
"first name" => "Joe",
"last name" => "Smith",
"phone" => "(301) 345-9837",
"address" => joe_addr
}
# Melissa
melissa = {
"first name" => "Melissa",
"last name" => "Adams",
"phone" => "(301) 364-8924",
"address" => melissa_addr
}
# Sandy
sandy = {
"first name" => "Sandy",
"last name" => "Koh",
"phone" => "(301) 354-2975",
"address" => sandy_addr
}
#-------------------------
addressbook = [ melissa, joe, sandy,]
addressbook.each do |person|
first = person["first name"]
last = person["last name"]
phone = person["phone"]
puts first + " " + last + ":"
puts " " + phone
street = person["address"]["street"]
city = person["address"]["city"]
state = person["address"]["state"]
zip = person["address"]["zip"]
puts " " + street
puts " " + city
puts " " + state + ", " + zip
puts ""
end |
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| Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 9:48 pm Post subject: |
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| BasketCase wrote: | | Xenophobe wrote: | | BasketCase wrote: | | Xenophobe wrote: | | BasketCase wrote: | | Xenophobe wrote: | | BasketCase wrote: | | AndrewMan wrote: | What the hell is ruby?
And if you're starting off google Visual Basic Express. It is made by microsoft. I have made so many applications.
If you are looking to make a maplestory trainer, than google Visual C++.
Although, it takes many months of work to make a maplestory trainer, as many of the variables are very hard to find, and hard to work with. |
Ruby is a super basic OOP language Ive started learning.
Visual Basic Express... sounds familiar
Used in crackme's at all? |
Do not, under any circumstance start leaning Visual Basic. I suggest you learn C++. (Visual C++ is the best compiler if you're only looking at developing for Windows.) |
I know I wanted to eventually get up to C++
My friends and I are planning this spoof of a game to make for our project in three years. I figured C++ would be a good language to base the game in, and none of my other friends even know the definition of programming >< |
C++ isn't hard, learning it now would be good. Just don't look into 3D game programming when you start. |
Haha no, I dont have to look into it for a few years. Im mostly looking to make basic applications with UIs rather than command line usage for now.
Downloading Visual C++ now |
Here's some code to make your first app (win32 console) :
| Code: | #include "stdafx.h"
#include <iostream>
#include <conio.h>
int _tmain(int argc, _TCHAR* argv[])
{
std::cout << "Hello World!";
std::cout << "Press any key to exit... ";
getch();
return 0;
} |
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Gah!
I learn nothing when you just give me the code
But thank you, looks pretty... complex o.o compared to ruby...
Sample ruby code:
| Code: | # Melissa's address
melissa_addr = {
"street" => "23 St George St.",
"city" => "Silver Spring",
"state" => "MD",
"zip" => "20465"
}
# Sandy's address
sandy_addr = {
"street" => "324 Campus Dr.",
"city" => "College Park",
"state" => "MD",
"zip" => "23659"
}
# Joe's address
joe_addr = {
"street" => "43 Main St. W",
"city" => "Washington",
"state" => "DC",
"zip" => "29847"
}
#---------------------------------------
# Joe
joe = {
"first name" => "Joe",
"last name" => "Smith",
"phone" => "(301) 345-9837",
"address" => joe_addr
}
# Melissa
melissa = {
"first name" => "Melissa",
"last name" => "Adams",
"phone" => "(301) 364-8924",
"address" => melissa_addr
}
# Sandy
sandy = {
"first name" => "Sandy",
"last name" => "Koh",
"phone" => "(301) 354-2975",
"address" => sandy_addr
}
#-------------------------
addressbook = [ melissa, joe, sandy,]
addressbook.each do |person|
first = person["first name"]
last = person["last name"]
phone = person["phone"]
puts first + " " + last + ":"
puts " " + phone
street = person["address"]["street"]
city = person["address"]["city"]
state = person["address"]["state"]
zip = person["address"]["zip"]
puts " " + street
puts " " + city
puts " " + state + ", " + zip
puts ""
end |
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Tbh, the code I gave you is very popular test code. You can actually learn off of it, and find out what something does by using Google. All it does is write "Hello World!".
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| haxory' wrote: | can't VB do anything??
windows is programmed using VB right? correct me if im wrong.
so all things in windows you have like the start menu is a windows form too. |
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BasketCase
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| Xenophobe wrote: | | BasketCase wrote: | | Xenophobe wrote: | | BasketCase wrote: | | Xenophobe wrote: | | BasketCase wrote: | | Xenophobe wrote: | | BasketCase wrote: | | AndrewMan wrote: | What the hell is ruby?
And if you're starting off google Visual Basic Express. It is made by microsoft. I have made so many applications.
If you are looking to make a maplestory trainer, than google Visual C++.
Although, it takes many months of work to make a maplestory trainer, as many of the variables are very hard to find, and hard to work with. |
Ruby is a super basic OOP language Ive started learning.
Visual Basic Express... sounds familiar
Used in crackme's at all? |
Do not, under any circumstance start leaning Visual Basic. I suggest you learn C++. (Visual C++ is the best compiler if you're only looking at developing for Windows.) |
I know I wanted to eventually get up to C++
My friends and I are planning this spoof of a game to make for our project in three years. I figured C++ would be a good language to base the game in, and none of my other friends even know the definition of programming >< |
C++ isn't hard, learning it now would be good. Just don't look into 3D game programming when you start. |
Haha no, I dont have to look into it for a few years. Im mostly looking to make basic applications with UIs rather than command line usage for now.
Downloading Visual C++ now |
Here's some code to make your first app (win32 console) :
| Code: | #include "stdafx.h"
#include <iostream>
#include <conio.h>
int _tmain(int argc, _TCHAR* argv[])
{
std::cout << "Hello World!";
std::cout << "Press any key to exit... ";
getch();
return 0;
} |
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Gah!
I learn nothing when you just give me the code
But thank you, looks pretty... complex o.o compared to ruby...
Sample ruby code:
| Code: | # Melissa's address
melissa_addr = {
"street" => "23 St George St.",
"city" => "Silver Spring",
"state" => "MD",
"zip" => "20465"
}
# Sandy's address
sandy_addr = {
"street" => "324 Campus Dr.",
"city" => "College Park",
"state" => "MD",
"zip" => "23659"
}
# Joe's address
joe_addr = {
"street" => "43 Main St. W",
"city" => "Washington",
"state" => "DC",
"zip" => "29847"
}
#---------------------------------------
# Joe
joe = {
"first name" => "Joe",
"last name" => "Smith",
"phone" => "(301) 345-9837",
"address" => joe_addr
}
# Melissa
melissa = {
"first name" => "Melissa",
"last name" => "Adams",
"phone" => "(301) 364-8924",
"address" => melissa_addr
}
# Sandy
sandy = {
"first name" => "Sandy",
"last name" => "Koh",
"phone" => "(301) 354-2975",
"address" => sandy_addr
}
#-------------------------
addressbook = [ melissa, joe, sandy,]
addressbook.each do |person|
first = person["first name"]
last = person["last name"]
phone = person["phone"]
puts first + " " + last + ":"
puts " " + phone
street = person["address"]["street"]
city = person["address"]["city"]
state = person["address"]["state"]
zip = person["address"]["zip"]
puts " " + street
puts " " + city
puts " " + state + ", " + zip
puts ""
end |
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Tbh, the code I gave you is very popular test code. You can actually learn off of it, and find out what something does by using Google. All it does is write "Hello World!". |
haha, I know what a Hello World program is :]
But really, looking with virgin to C++ eyes, none of that code means anything to me.
VC++ is taking forever to instal xD
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Already there
Man this is so confusing. None of the commands even relate to what they do
cout = print message? wait what?
it doesnt explain the #include that well, like what it actually does and in what situations we'd use which include, etc
doesnt explain the int in "int main ()"
Bah, this is gonna take forever
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AndrewMan
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I do regret starting to learn VB, but in some ways its good. Good for trainers, good for making simple applications, and easy to understand.
C++, on the otherhand, requires you actually to memorize. VB is sort of like writing a book. C++ is actually "LEARNING another language". Requires you to memorize, and will take a while.
Example:
To say "hello world" in Visual Basic its this:
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MsgBox("Hello World") |
In C++ it is this:
| Code: | #include "stdafx.h"
#include <iostream>
#include <conio.h>
int _tmain(int argc, _TCHAR* argv[])
{
std::cout << "Hello World!";
std::cout << "Press any key to exit... ";
getch();
return 0;
}
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Of course I know shit about C++, and wont learn till the summer when I get more time... 
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