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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

creating a GUI with C isn't that difficult. For more complicated designs you can graph out a design in delphi and there you go, you have your coords. You just have to thiink a tad bit harder.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hmm alright I got C++ and C#...can I get a tut for both of em? A link or anything? or should this be another new thread?
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 9:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

samuri25404 wrote:
C# is a lot easier to learn, than C++--it may not have the predefined WINAPIs and whatnot, but it does have a much easier way of creating GUIs than that freaking user-defined HandleMessage loop. -.-


I don't know why you think this is a downside, handling the messages is not hard at all. Learning how it works early on is going to be better than shitting your pants when you have to override WndProc in C#.

Creating a GUI in C isn't hard, you could always use dialogs, and even creating things yourself isn't hard. Just base the coords off a resource editor or something like that.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

>.> Tuts anyone? =\ not gonna nag.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

who would have imagined that google is a search engine?

or that there is a sticky topic at the top of the forum.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

-.- you know I dont spend all day on here. I dont just sit here and read stuff...

god...this is hard to get...i cant even...freaking find were to write the codes o.o either im way to tired...or not trying. DARN YOU C++
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.cplusplus.com/doc/tutorial/
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 10:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I gave him that link via PM.

But he wants a "Easier" one, well, since im a bit "ñazy" to stay filling my PM, i will tell you that cplusplus tutorial is DAMN EASY to understand, if you can't, then.. i don't know how could you understand.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 11:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

XxOsirisxX wrote:
I gave him that link via PM.

But he wants a "Easier" one, well, since im a bit "ñazy" to stay filling my PM, i will tell you that cplusplus tutorial is DAMN EASY to understand, if you can't, then.. i don't know how could you understand.


Agreed, that's about as easy as it gets.

READ what it says, it explains everything in detail, don't just glance at it and decide it's too hard.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 11:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DO NOT MAKE THE SAME MISTAKE I DID AND START WITH C#

Its not a good language to start with.

The best one to start with would be either C or ASM. and from there, branch off into other C's (C++/C#), and if you learn asm, you can go into MASM and FASM. These are actually useful languages.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 1:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

WndProc = full control.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 1:57 am    Post subject: Re: Programming Languages. Reply with quote

Urumeshi wrote:
Ok...im REALLY new at this and JUST starting off so I need to know...what language wold be easiest to start with, and then can be changed to a different one? I wanna make trainers for flash games and stuff. Can anyone suggest anything and maybe provide a link?


start with Vb , C++/C# or delphi do not start at asm ..

the reason you shouldent start with asm is that you cant really make something.

and to not missunderstand me (or how it spells)
when you programing in vb,delphi you can make somthing simple exampel i wante a button here and i whant message popup and turn some text into a listbox

it is funny to programming when you can see the result while you starting with a lg and then you feel proud when you did some projects Rolling Eyes

thats why alot of people dosent even start because they taking some boring lg exampel ASM you wont see any result without being an expert

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 4:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

samuri25404 wrote:
C# is a lot easier to learn, than C++--it may not have the predefined WINAPIs and whatnot, but it does have a much easier way of creating GUIs than that freaking user-defined HandleMessage loop. -.-


Having the message handler in C++ (DlgProc, WncProc, etc.) isn't really that hard to understand or use. Not to mention you don't have to define every single message, you simply define the ones you want to "override" from the default return.

Thats why the messages are typically seen with a switch(), as you can have a default: case to handle any unhandled messages, or just return false.

For example, handling the first event of a dialog, WM_INITDIALOG which is called when the dialog is initializing which is used for any preparation and such before the dialog should be showed. All other messages are handled by Windows with their default handlers.

Code:
BOOL CALLBACK DlgProc(HWND hWnd, UINT uMsg, WPARAM wParam, LPARAM lParam)
{
   switch( uMsg )
   {
   case WM_INITDIALOG:
      ShowWindow( hWnd, SW_SHOW );
      CallAnotherFunctionHere();
      return TRUE;

   default:
      break; // Or Just Return FALSE
   }
   return FALSE;
}

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 9:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i never said I want an esier one...im reading that one.well maybe i did but still, I just said I can't find were to write the code..it was like 11 at night..

found it, Reading that tut and doing it.
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