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NINTENDO Grandmaster Cheater Supreme
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Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 5:41 am Post subject: |
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Are there many kinds of debuggers?
is ollydbg the only one?
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Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 5:42 am Post subject: |
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| IDA and OllyDbg are the most common i think
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NINTENDO Grandmaster Cheater Supreme
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Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 6:19 am Post subject: |
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| stealthy17 wrote: | | IDA and OllyDbg are the most common i think |
So i have to check that none of like 10 debuggers are not currently running. -.-
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Renkokuken GO Moderator
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Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 6:23 am Post subject: |
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| Naablet wrote: | | stealthy17 wrote: | | IDA and OllyDbg are the most common i think |
So i have to check that none of like 10 debuggers are not currently running. -.- | In which, that check can be easily removed.
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NINTENDO Grandmaster Cheater Supreme
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Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 6:25 am Post subject: |
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| Renkokuken wrote: | | Naablet wrote: | | stealthy17 wrote: | | IDA and OllyDbg are the most common i think |
So i have to check that none of like 10 debuggers are not currently running. -.- | In which, that check can be easily removed. |
Men vafan.. -.- Hur ska man göra då?!
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Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 6:28 am Post subject: |
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| Naablet wrote: | | Renkokuken wrote: | | Naablet wrote: | | stealthy17 wrote: | | IDA and OllyDbg are the most common i think |
So i have to check that none of like 10 debuggers are not currently running. -.- | In which, that check can be easily removed. |
Men vafan.. -.- Hur ska man göra då?! | ばか,に有りのまま。
I'd rather not start talking in other languages.
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Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 7:56 am Post subject: |
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There are tons of debuggers out there on the net, I don't think theres any that can compare to Olly though. (IDA is a debugger as well, but it's more main focus is disassembling. I'd rather use Olly over IDA for debugging.)
You really wont find that much of a secure method to keep your program safe in VB. Reason for this is theres basically no way of avoiding a compare line using "If blah = blah Then" which will always yield the same result in a debugger.
Packing a file is always a nice thing to do to help reduce the size, compress resources, etc. but you should never look at it for protection. I don't think theres a packer out there that has yet to be unpacked. And new ones are unpacked within hours of release.
If anything create things that you need to be protected in a C/C++ dll and do your protection checks inside the library instead of VB6. While there will be ways around the protections you use in the dll, it will be more secure then it is in VB itself.
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Xanatos I post too much
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Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 8:05 am Post subject: |
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What about basing a key on the IP from a secure .dll?
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Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 8:15 am Post subject: |
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| variable or not, it doesn't matter, encrypt or pchar the password/text/digits/chars
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NINTENDO Grandmaster Cheater Supreme
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Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 8:27 am Post subject: |
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| Rot1 wrote: | | variable or not, it doesn't matter, encrypt or pchar the password/text/digits/chars |
pchar?
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| Naablet wrote: | | Rot1 wrote: | | variable or not, it doesn't matter, encrypt or pchar the password/text/digits/chars |
pchar? |
PCHAR is a Delphi variable type.
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