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		| rapion124 Grandmaster Cheater Supreme
 
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				|  Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 8:02 pm    Post subject: [Funny Idea] Debugging on Hardware Level |   |  
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				| Here's a funny idea I came up with: The 'usual' way of debugging is by doing it in the kernel. Well, can't you also do it on the hardware level? Get a tank of liquid nitrogen. Start the program you wanna debug. Pour the liquid nitrogen on your CPU when you wanna 'pause' the program. Then, slowly wait until your CPU resumes functioning. 
 If you wanna clear some memory, go take a small but strong magnet. Put it on a metal rod and find the physical address (where the memory is stored physically on your memory chip) and put the magnet there to 'delete' the memory. If your computer doesn't Blue Screen, then you just killed a chunk of memory.
 
 If we could do this without error, then hacking GameGuard will be a piece of cake lol. Unless, of course, GameGuard can operate on the hardware level. Don't flame me for the idea. It's just a little funny thing I thought up of. Don't try this unless its a really sucky computer from the 20th century.
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		| hcavolsdsadgadsg I'm a spammer
 
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				|  Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 1:01 am    Post subject: Re: [Funny Idea] Debugging on Hardware Level |   |  
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				|  	  | rapion124 wrote: |  	  | Here's a funny idea I came up with: The 'usual' way of debugging is by doing it in the kernel. Well, can't you also do it on the hardware level? Get a tank of liquid nitrogen. Start the program you wanna debug. Pour the liquid nitrogen on your CPU when you wanna 'pause' the program. Then, slowly wait until your CPU resumes functioning. 
 If you wanna clear some memory, go take a small but strong magnet. Put it on a metal rod and find the physical address (where the memory is stored physically on your memory chip) and put the magnet there to 'delete' the memory. If your computer doesn't Blue Screen, then you just killed a chunk of memory.
 
 If we could do this without error, then hacking GameGuard will be a piece of cake lol. Unless, of course, GameGuard can operate on the hardware level. Don't flame me for the idea. It's just a little funny thing I thought up of. Don't try this unless its a really sucky computer from the 20th century.
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 I hope you're kidding.
 
 By the way, it doesn't work that way for the first one and yes it's possible. Nitrogen doesn't conduct electricity as far as I know, as long as there's no condensation you'll be fine, and there will be no side effects from your hardware being -100something degree's either, other than the fact that it's really cold.
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		| Dark Byte Site Admin
 
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				|  Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 2:33 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| some amd's and intels support a probe mode. Look up jtag
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		| ~||MRFlame||~ I post too much
 
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				|  Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 3:04 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| right..but the purpose? 	  | Dark Byte wrote: |  	  | some amd's and intels support a probe mode. Look up jtag
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				|  Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 6:55 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| So acutally, you're going to debug in kernelmode which you want the highest privilege. |  | 
	
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		| Aikos Cheater
 
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				|  Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 7:03 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Don't computer parts operate by electricity? What has cooling to do with suspending the computer? Anyway, it is a pretty fun joke.
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				|  Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 8:12 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| my god I think the liquid nitrogen debugger could work and put your cpu into superconductor debug mode, superconductors can hold a charge for ever so you can stay in debug mode for eternity
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