| View previous topic :: View next topic |
| Author |
Message |
ritz
Advanced Cheater
 Reputation: 0
Joined: 14 Feb 2007
Posts: 99
|
 Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 3:06 pm Post subject: |
 |
|
Well, ya... if you really wanted to make your game that secure.. then don;t make any major values client side... or code your game using java like runescape.
That way you won't have to worry about reverse engineering and memory editing... stupid flash game makers!
|
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
Acim
Grandmaster Cheater Supreme
 Reputation: 0
Joined: 04 Jun 2007
Posts: 1948
Location: If anyone has a GMS DK and they don't need it I'll have it!!
|
| Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 5:39 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Slugsnack wrote: | | Highly doubt it. You are modifying memory that belongs to you. Software companies have tried to sue hackers using memory editing and as far as I know have failed each time because of this reason. |
Yeah, agreed. That's the argument I used against my friend who said it was illegal.
_________________
I'm alive and well, but I quit CEF for a while. Legitly playing since Novemberish 07. Starting hacking October 06. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Thlump
Grandmaster Cheater
![]() Reputation: 0
Joined: 26 Aug 2007
Posts: 964
Location: 206.51.226.121
|
| Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 11:16 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Acim wrote: | | Slugsnack wrote: | | Highly doubt it. You are modifying memory that belongs to you. Software companies have tried to sue hackers using memory editing and as far as I know have failed each time because of this reason. |
Yeah, agreed. That's the argument I used against my friend who said it was illegal. |
So if you downloaded MapleStory you can claim it as your own memory and therefore can't be sued when you change the memory?
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
atom0s
Moderator
 Reputation: 205
Joined: 25 Jan 2006
Posts: 8588
Location: 127.0.0.1
|
| Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 11:58 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Thlump wrote: | | So if you downloaded MapleStory you can claim it as your own memory and therefore can't be sued when you change the memory? |
The memory on your machine is yours. You own it, not the company. The game you downloaded you do not own, the company that you got it from does. Reversing a game is illegal, hacking the memory on your machine is not.
_________________
- Retired. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
DeletedUser14087
I post too much
![]() Reputation: 2
Joined: 21 Jun 2006
Posts: 3069
|
| Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 1:32 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Dark Byte wrote: | INFIDEL!!!!!!
but seriosly, CE is not illegal, but what you do can be.
E.g writing a assembler script that ends up packet floodign the server till it crashes, yes, that's illegal.
But simple stuff like editing your money, and the server is so stupid to actually believe that you have as much money as the client tells it, then not really. (unless it's a bank, or a official legal instance) |
i lol'd  , you're cool 
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Flyte
Peanuts!!!!
 Reputation: 6
Joined: 19 Apr 2006
Posts: 1887
Location: Canada
|
| Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 5:05 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Wiccaan wrote: | | The memory on your machine is yours. You own it, not the company. The game you downloaded you do not own, the company that you got it from does. Reversing a game is illegal, hacking the memory on your machine is not. |
Personally, I don't agree with even the company owning the "game" (I can see them owning the game concept however), as all it truly is is a bunch binary numbers, and you can't own numbers.
If you can, I hereby copyright the following string of binary: 0100011001101100011110010111010001100101
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
neoalpha
Advanced Cheater
![]() Reputation: 0
Joined: 26 Oct 2007
Posts: 72
Location: Taboão da Serra , SP , Brazil
|
| Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 5:09 pm Post subject: |
|
|
It changes the data that is in your pc ; so , it's legal... But packed editing can be considered illegal...
So , if the data is in your pc = legal
if data is not in a pc that you owns = illegal
_________________
Sorry for my bad english... I'm Brazilian 
 |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Labyrnth
Moderator
![]() Reputation: 10
Joined: 28 Nov 2006
Posts: 6300
|
| Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 6:26 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Flyte wrote: | | 0100011001101100011110010111010001100101 |
Woops, your going to have to sue me i edited your binary.
| Code: | | 0100010001101111100000010111010111100101 |
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
CyClonenl
Newbie cheater
![]() Reputation: 0
Joined: 12 Mar 2005
Posts: 24
|
| Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 7:19 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Ofc its legal.
Otherwise it would be like buying a pencil, but getting sued for opening it!
You can, other than cheating, fix bugs with CE. Yes, its quite hard but possible. You would have to be a Assembly mastermind
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
atom0s
Moderator
Reputation: 205
Joined: 25 Jan 2006
Posts: 8588
Location: 127.0.0.1
|
| Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 8:15 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Flyte wrote: | | Wiccaan wrote: | | The memory on your machine is yours. You own it, not the company. The game you downloaded you do not own, the company that you got it from does. Reversing a game is illegal, hacking the memory on your machine is not. |
Personally, I don't agree with even the company owning the "game" (I can see them owning the game concept however), as all it truly is is a bunch binary numbers, and you can't own numbers.
If you can, I hereby copyright the following string of binary: 0100011001101100011110010111010001100101 |
The written code is theirs, no reason for it not to be. Just because it's translated and read in binary on your machine doesn't mean they didn't make it.
_________________
- Retired. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
me
Grandmaster Cheater
 Reputation: 2
Joined: 24 Jun 2004
Posts: 733
Location: location location
|
| Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 8:34 am Post subject: |
|
|
| Wiccaan wrote: | | Flyte wrote: | | Wiccaan wrote: | | The memory on your machine is yours. You own it, not the company. The game you downloaded you do not own, the company that you got it from does. Reversing a game is illegal, hacking the memory on your machine is not. |
Personally, I don't agree with even the company owning the "game" (I can see them owning the game concept however), as all it truly is is a bunch binary numbers, and you can't own numbers.
If you can, I hereby copyright the following string of binary: 0100011001101100011110010111010001100101 |
The written code is theirs, no reason for it not to be. Just because it's translated and read in binary on your machine doesn't mean they didn't make it. |
I own this code
oh that was spam,
I think the law in these areas and how it is implemented is down to what countries laws you are living under,
a good lawyer and how the judge and jury are swayed by that lawyer,
the trouble is that they are making these laws up as they go along and trying to put paper author copyrights into the magnetic media field,
and though they could find stuff on your harddrive to prosectute you with the infomation in your ram is lost when you turn off your pc,
so unless they have bugged your pc and are saving all your running programs it dissapears out of existance,
well using cheat engine for games on your pc is legal just about everywhere, and where it isnt its hard to prove anything,
then again some would like to grass up maple story hackers from what I have seen
_________________
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Flyte
Peanuts!!!!
Reputation: 6
Joined: 19 Apr 2006
Posts: 1887
Location: Canada
|
| Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 8:44 am Post subject: |
|
|
| Wiccaan wrote: | | The written code is theirs, no reason for it not to be. Just because it's translated and read in binary on your machine doesn't mean they didn't make it. |
The written code is theirs, the compiled executable is not.
I hereby copyright the "Hello World" example. Anybody using it at all has to pay me 1$ Canadian.
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
DSSHHM
Master Cheater
 Reputation: 0
Joined: 16 Nov 2007
Posts: 304
|
| Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 7:01 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| well it depends on how u use it
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
nejiruto44
How do I cheat?
![]() Reputation: 0
Joined: 12 Nov 2007
Posts: 9
Location: BATTLEON
|
| Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 6:20 pm Post subject: |
|
|
no its not cause its not hacking its just changing information on games and stuff lol fart weeeeeeee
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Labyrnth
Moderator
![]() Reputation: 10
Joined: 28 Nov 2006
Posts: 6300
|
| Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 10:53 am Post subject: |
|
|
| Flyte wrote: |
The written code is theirs, the compiled executable is not. |
Thats just silly as hell Flyte.
Thats like telling Mr. Bill Gates, All of his creation is not his.
I copy write the name :Labyrnth & Flyte , Now change your name biotch!
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
FAQ
Search
Memberlist
Usergroups
Register
Profile
Log in to check your private messages
Log in
