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| Zycthe wrote: | | Far as i can tell but get another PSU it only has 22 AMPS on 12v rail. |
D: But it's $9!
And what does that do? I thought the only thing that mattered was the wattage.
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| Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 7:00 pm Post subject: |
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PowerColor HD4870 - $125 - HD4770 and 9800GTX+ are no competition. I'd stick with the ASUS 9600GSO for price vs. performance. If you still wish to choose between HD4770 and 9800GTX+, then go with the Sapphire HD4770 and save yourself a tiny bit of cash. XFX is a good brand, although their HD4770 seems a bit expensive, and you might as well go to the HD4870 at that price.
Corsair CMPSU-400CX - $40 - 30A on +12v > 22A on +12v. No-name brands are not the way to go, especially for your PSU.
GA-MA790GP-UD4H - $100 - The Biostar mobo should be alright, although I have a predilection for Gigabyte
Corsair XMS2 4GB kit - $50 - $10 cheaper, had some bad experiences with a crappy batch (97432) of Crucial Ballistix
WD 500GB 7200RPM HDD - $60 - $20 more for a 500GB drive with a 32MB cache. 8MB cache hard drives are pretty slow, even if they're rated for 7200RPM.
Skip to the 'important part' if you don't feel like reading everything about PSU power.
For future reference (since amps, volts, and watts will probably come up later in this thread), this is just some background/math stuff to PSU power, which you don't have to read:
| Quote: | | Amps, voltage, and wattage are all measurements of power/electricity. Amps x voltage = wattage. So, mathematically (not accounting for rail performance, small stuff, and efficiency), 30A on the +12v rail is 360W. Generally, computer parts that run on the +12v rail are the GPU, hard drives, and optical drives, with the latter two taking up only a few watts. The same idea goes with +3.3v and +5v rail, which are used for the CPU, hard drives, and optical drives (HDD and optical drives use both +5v and +12v). So, you want more power to the +12v and +3.3v rails to power your CPU and GPU (which the ATX12v v2.2 specification delivers, IIRC). Power supplies compliant with older ATX12v specifications might deliver more power to the +5v, rather than to the +3.3v and +12v (since +5v was used for currently obsolete CPUs). |
Essentially, you want more power to the +3.3v and +12v voltage "rails." Most modern power supplies deliver more than enough amperage (power) to the +3.3v (used for CPU), so the +12v rail is where it all matters.
Important part:
The A-Top 22A +12v PSU does technically offer enough power to run either GPUs you selected as well as the rest of your system (and, if the power supply were to work, it would probably be able to handle your system in real-life). But the issue with PSUs is that the rest of your system depends on it (obviously). Getting a cheap, no-name PSU will likely not even start or will crash/blow up and take much of your system with it. Corsair, Seasonic, OCZ, and PC Power & Cooling are those 'name brand' PSUs. Ultra also makes reliable PSUs, although their performance is sub-par with non-enthusiast models.
Long post is long.
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| superweapons wrote: | PowerColor HD4870 - $125 - HD4770 and 9800GTX+ are no competition. I'd stick with the ASUS 9600GSO for price vs. performance. If you still wish to choose between HD4770 and 9800GTX+, then go with the Sapphire HD4770 and save yourself a tiny bit of cash. XFX is a good brand, although their HD4770 seems a bit expensive, and you might as well go to the HD4870 at that price.
Corsair CMPSU-400CX - $40 - 30A on +12v > 22A on +12v. No-name brands are not the way to go, especially for your PSU.
GA-MA790GP-UD4H - $100 - The Biostar mobo should be alright, although I have a predilection for Gigabyte
Corsair XMS2 4GB kit - $50 - $10 cheaper, had some bad experiences with a crappy batch (97432) of Crucial Ballistix
WD 500GB 7200RPM HDD - $60 - $20 more for a 500GB drive with a 32MB cache. 8MB cache hard drives are pretty slow, even if they're rated for 7200RPM. |
I think I'll get everything that you suggested, because so far it seems the best, and then the Athlox II X4. That is a decent amount over $400, but that's okay.
Thanks a lot.
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| Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 8:03 pm Post subject: |
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I would suggest the 9800 GTX+.
It will do anything you need it to and at 1920x1200
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| Gun Ecstasy wrote: | I would suggest the 9800 GTX+.
It will do anything you need it to and at 1920x1200 |
The hd 4850 performs better or equal to it. Also if he wanted a 8800 GT he would buy a 8800 GT (pointing out rebranding).
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I just bought the stuff, filling out rebate forms now (you get $70 back in total for it), so there is no more use in squabbling.
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| Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 8:35 pm Post subject: |
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The 4850 doesn't compare to the 9800 GTX+
It's dumb that you would point out the "rebranding" of the 8800 GT but let me point that that we are not talking about the 8800GT/9800 GT... we are talking about the 9800 GTX+, a card using a 55nm core with 128 stream processors clocked at 738 mhz -- far outperforming the 4850 in all applications as well as the 4870 in most applications.
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| Gun Ecstasy wrote: | The 4850 doesn't compare to the 9800 GTX+
It's dumb that you would point out the "rebranding" of the 8800 GT but let me point that that we are not talking about the 8800GT/9800 GT... we are talking about the 9800 GTX+, a card using a 55nm core with 128 stream processors clocked at 738 mhz -- far outperforming the 4850 in all applications as well as the 4870 in most applications. |
Didnt read the X on the end, running on 2 hours of sleep heh
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| Gun Ecstasy wrote: | The 4850 doesn't compare to the 9800 GTX+
It's dumb that you would point out the "rebranding" of the 8800 GT but let me point that that we are not talking about the 8800GT/9800 GT... we are talking about the 9800 GTX+, a card using a 55nm core with 128 stream processors clocked at 738 mhz -- far outperforming the 4850 in all applications as well as the 4870 in most applications. |
Well I got the 4870, and it came with a free S.T.A.L.K.E.R. game.
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| FangBanger wrote: | | What is the best way for a lv19 Soldier to solo Sledge on Borderlands? |
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| Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 9:27 pm Post subject: |
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| Been wishing I'd went with a 9800GTX+ instead of an HD 4850 a while back. Proprietary ATI drivers for Linux are a huge bitch to install and configure on some distros.
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| Karakawe wrote: | | Been wishing I'd went with a 9800GTX+ instead of an HD 4850 a while back. Proprietary ATI drivers for Linux are a huge bitch to install and configure on some distros. |
Yeah I won't have to worry about that because I'm getting FREE WIN7 64-BIT ON SATURDAY!
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I got connections.
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| Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 4:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Gun Ecstasy wrote: | The 4850 doesn't compare to the 9800 GTX+
It's dumb that you would point out the "rebranding" of the 8800 GT but let me point that that we are not talking about the 8800GT/9800 GT... we are talking about the 9800 GTX+, a card using a 55nm core with 128 stream processors clocked at 738 mhz -- far outperforming the 4850 in all applications as well as the 4870 in most applications. |
Lolwut. The HD4000 line (sans the 4770, which uses a 40nm manufacturing process) uses a 55nm manufacturing process as well.
As for "farly outperforming"... I think you need to look up some benchmarks brosef. The cards are neck-and-neck in essentially all applications, and the 4870 mops the floor with it. nVidia's drivers are a bit better, however.
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| Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 4:19 pm Post subject: |
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| Gun Ecstasy wrote: | The 4850 doesn't compare to the 9800 GTX+
It's dumb that you would point out the "rebranding" of the 8800 GT but let me point that that we are not talking about the 8800GT/9800 GT... we are talking about the 9800 GTX+, a card using a 55nm core with 128 stream processors clocked at 738 mhz -- far outperforming the 4850 in all applications as well as the 4870 in most applications. |
I think you need to hop off nvidia's nuts for a little while and come back to reality.
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