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[squrrilslayer]

for those who dont know what sim tower is, crawl out from under that rock of yours and live a life.
ok...
as topic stated, im finding simtower unhackable... due to me not being able to find it in the process list.............
anyone know how to hack it?
(yes its an easy game but i just want to play around with values and such...)

[Labyrnth]

When you click the icon to look at the process list, try clicking WINDOWS LIST

Then right click in the window and select filter, Not type all or part of the window name for Sim Tower and click ok.

You now should have the process you need to click.

squrrilslayer go get the nuts now so we can both slay one

[squrrilslayer]

[Labyrnth]

HUH ?

The sim tower i played a while back was one screen Mr.

How about a screen shot of what you are talking about. ?

[zapdos9]

How to hack simtower?!!!

[Eraser]

[zapdos9]

I can't even searched the memory for its money. tried all, byte till float also can't get it.

[tgp1994]

I'm trying to hack it right now. It looks like when you do a string scan, it comes up with the value of your money, so I'm going to try that pointer thingymajigger (you can till I wouldn't know what to do) so I can find out what's changing that string value.

EDIT: I get four different opcodes that access the string value of the money. If anyone's good at assembler, they would be of great help.

EDIT2: I can't find that string address anymore. And I made a wiki article about this here: wiki.cheatengine.org/index.php?title=Gamecheats:SimTower#Initial_Research

[Dark Byte]

don't forget to limit your searches to 2 byte or 1 byte values only. so not the default of 4 byte
And try changed/unchanged scans. Could be it's storing stuff in a weird way

[tgp1994]

Wow, dark_byte himself Ya, I tried pretty much every single scanning option in the book. The funny thing was, in the 2 byte/single byte options, results started comming back that had nothing to do with the value that I typed in. Also, what do you mean by changed/unchanged scans?

[Dark Byte]

Perhaps the game doesn't store the money as it's displayed
Perhaps it's stored as maximum allowed amount of money - real amount of money
Or it's stored deviced by 10, 100, or even 1000 (e.g to save space if the gameplay never sets the last few digits of the money to anything than 0)
or it's adding an xor value over it (e.g age of empires 3)
To find it then do an unknown initial value scan, gain or lose some money, scan for changed. Do something that doesn't make your money change, scan for unchanged, and repeat. Eventually you might be able to find it.

[tgp1994]

Ok, I'll give that a try and report my findings. So do you play ST yourself?

EDIT:

Ok, I went with the scanning on an unkown value idea, scanning all possible memory areas. Went through, rescanned after every change with inc/dec respective to the change in money, and eventually, ended up with 0 values. I don't know what to do now. Is it possible it writes to a file every time the money needs to change?

EDIT2:
So I retried it this time, only I was scanning for changed values only at the appropriate times. I've pretty much limited the search to 2000 entries. I still have no idea what to do.

[Dark Byte]

use unchanged value scan as well (you have to filter out the useless data like animations in the game, mousecursor, etc...)

Just find a way to pause the game and then scan. (perhaps the game is frozen when inside a menu window? Or it has a pause buttons ?

let the game run for half a second or more as long as the money doesn't change, pause, and then scan for unchanged value

[tgp1994]

Ok, I will try that too. Ya, fortunately this game comes with a pause button, and I would imagine that, compared to other games, this comes in very handy when memory hacking. So unchanged value? I guess I could do a combination of the both, changed and unchanged, so it filters out everything except for what I want

BIG EDIT:

Ok, now I've limited things down to 8 addresses:

02CCE4AB::8
"::d
02CCE4AC::8
"::d
02CCE4AD::8
"::d
02CCE4AE::8
"::d

I'm sure you all can see the pattern in that. Then, the values seem to show some pattern but no correlation whatsoever to the actual money value:

All 8 byte values go like this:
4899916395183079435
91197892456611840
356241767408640
1391569403940

(Actually, looking at it now, does anyone notice how they go down two decimal places?)

Then the doubles:

3.68934930952215E19
1.45822440452241E-302
1.76006818890377E-309
6.87526636290535E-312

Now I see absolutely no correlation at all in these. And how can two different values occupy the same addresses?

If there are any master pattern finders out there, your help is appreciated. By the way, my current real money value is 2066500.

[Dark Byte]

check the wiki