Cheat Engine

sylfaen · How do I cheat? Reputation: 0 Joined: 06 Jun 2022 Posts: 9

Didn't have enough title space to explain.

I want to search for a value, say 100. Every time the scan finds a value of 100, I want it to then check exactly 4 Bytes above that address, and check if the value +4 Bytes up is say, 120. Any time the search finds the value 100, and then finds that the value 120 is 4 Bytes above it, display the address of the 100 value in the results.

Don't know if it's possible or if it would take a lifetime to scan, but that is what I need to do. I can't change two values or anything around them. I know they are exactly 4 bytes separated, and that is it. So ultimately, I want to find every instance in the memory where the value 100 is then followed 4 bytes later by the value 120. Those particular values don't matter and are just examples.

Can this be done?

AylinCE · Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2022 2:54 pm Post subject:

ParkourPenguin · Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2022 3:01 pm Post subject:

A group scan is the closest you can get to that w/o Lua scripting.

If by "above" you mean after, it would be `4:100 4:120`

sylfaen · How do I cheat? Reputation: 0 Joined: 06 Jun 2022 Posts: 9

Freakin love you Aylin

ParkourPenguin · Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2022 6:45 pm Post subject:

Check "Out of order". Blocksize is the size of the block of memory those values reside in (e.g. a few thousand), block alignment is the alignment of the start of the block, and "must be type aligned" basically only finds values in the block if they are aligned (use this).

sylfaen · How do I cheat? Reputation: 0 Joined: 06 Jun 2022 Posts: 9

ParkourPenguin · Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2022 2:56 pm Post subject:

CE basically goes through memory by blocks.

sylfaen · How do I cheat? Reputation: 0 Joined: 06 Jun 2022 Posts: 9

AylinCE · Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2022 2:53 pm Post subject:

This is somewhat dangerous code. It can take a lot of testing, hold, and be annoying.
A frequently used value like 100 will cause a lot of testing.

Still, it's an idea. (But I wouldn't recommend using it Smile

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You can look up the hidden value (120) by *4 bytes high.
If there is more than one hidden value in a single address, it can list the same address again. If you don't want this to happen, I can add a code that eliminates the same address.

sylfaen · How do I cheat? Reputation: 0 Joined: 06 Jun 2022 Posts: 9

I've located a value that I need to change, and I simply cannot change it. There is a code out there somewhere that is preventing it from increasing under a certain condition. Is there any chance anyone reading this might be able to give me a live demonstration on how I can find it? It's something I've always struggled with and a concept I really, REALLY want to understand, even if that understanding is just seeing it done one time in front of me.

ParkourPenguin · Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2022 7:49 pm Post subject:

More likely than not, you didn't find the right value. Values can get cached for too many reasons to name. Maybe the real value is some other data type, maybe it's comprised of other values (e.g. current skill points = total - spent), or maybe it's not even stored on your computer (online games).

sylfaen · How do I cheat? Reputation: 0 Joined: 06 Jun 2022 Posts: 9

Ok so the value itself can't be found, but I can modify another value that alters it. I can freeze a button to be always be pushable. Normally, you push it once, you have to wait until tomorrow. It's a workaround for directly modifying the value, cause as you said, modifying it directly doesn't work. However, this button that gives, say, 10 points per click, stops working after a while. One counter shows the points going up, but the important counter stops. It stops at exactly one week's worth of points. So I can't edit it directly, and I cant increase it indirectly. How do I go about either finding the real value, cutting out whatever is capping it at one week, or change it from a week to 99 maybe? I have no idea how to find something like that.

ParkourPenguin · Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2022 9:33 pm Post subject:

I'm assuming it's not an online game. Load the game and disable your internet connection. If you can't play the game normally anymore, the value you want probably isn't stored on your computer and you should give up.

My first guess is that the real value is obfuscated in some way, and the value you found is probably a cached decrypted value used for UI purposes. It's not uncommon for game devs to apply some operations to stored values as a form of cheap obfuscation, or maybe it's merely a consequence of a combination of other values. Try scanning for unknown initial value and changed/unchanged scans afterward. Once you can't narrow down the results any further, start freezing values and see what happens.

sylfaen · How do I cheat? Reputation: 0 Joined: 06 Jun 2022 Posts: 9

The game IS online, but everything is saved client side because the Dev is a designer and doesn't know how to code. He was given the engine and just adds content.