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PostPosted: Sat Aug 28, 2021 1:26 pm    Post subject: Help !!! Reply with quote

hi , please help latest new games (unreal engine ) are using this method that most and many important values(bullets , health,score,mana,speed, money ....etc) are stored in this same address ...how can i make trainer with this ? all values i want are stored in that address please explain how to find the values example : mov [rsi+40],20 ? i mean how to find unique address for bullets , health,score,mana,speed, money ....etc and make script for them individually .....i found them successfuly and changed values but they change ...

when i press find out what addresses this instruction access ....i get more than 3500 results all in same address ....lots of important values bullets, time,score,mana,health....etc...also all are changing after restart game...how to fix this ? thanks
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 28, 2021 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Look further up in functions or step out of them to see what's writing those values in the first place, to determine the base of each thing you want to change.

Otherwise, (but good luck with thousands of shared addresses), find unique offsets and cmp for each specific thing.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2021 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i hope and wish the creators of cheat engine make a quick feature to distinguish between the many thousands shared op codes soon because it's getting wide spread in games

all the important values are stored in : mov [rcx],rbx ...for example...the results are 3500+ addresses in that address all are dynamic / changing...wich of course sucks pretty much.G0D have mercy on my soul.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2021 1:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

it's called the commonality scanner

Look at the step 9 video tutorial

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2021 2:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

can you explain how to find commonalites between 20599 addressess accessed by same 1 code ? mov [rax],ecx ...video tutorial ?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2021 2:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Find one address you want to compare against.. set a breakpoint on that sharedcode and step out of the function. Break & Trace where necessary to make sure you're catching what's modifying value/ addresses that lead back to your main end. At some point you can see what a deeper instruction accesses and if it's less, work from there (structure dissector). If it's no better, keep going backwards until you find a good place. It's not going to be an easy 1-2 solution.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2021 3:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks for help ,but can you make a simple video tutorial ?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 3:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

any help to solve this sh** ? too much addresses to scan for commonalities
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 3:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hate to say it, but you need to put in the effort here. It may be confusing at first but I promise you'll learn more and understand it better doing it yourself.. that and we can't do your work for you directly.

1. On the instruction that you're looking at, set a Breakpoint.

2. Right-click it again and set a breakpoint condition, like a specific value you're looking for, so it only breaks on the given address you're looking at. If it caught and broke immediately before, just run it at this point. If your condition is good it will only break on the update you're looking for.

3. Look back in the function to see where the base value is coming from. Follow that register through calls, writes, etc. Keep going back, stepping out of the function where necessary. Eventually you'll find a root for the value, or address that holds your important value far earlier. When you find that, you can try seeing what that accesses or what writes to it.. if it's good enough you can work from there. If not, keep reversing!

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 3:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

realmanX wrote:
can you explain how to find commonalites between 20599 addressess accessed by same 1 code ? mov [rax],ecx ...video tutorial ?
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You don't have to scan for commonalities between all of them, just the one address of the value you want to manipulate and a handful of others, say 5-10 maybe.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 1:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LeFiXER wrote:
realmanX wrote:
can you explain how to find commonalites between 20599 addressess accessed by same 1 code ? mov [rax],ecx ...video tutorial ?
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You don't have to scan for commonalities between all of them, just the one address of the value you want to manipulate and a handful of others, say 5-10 maybe.


is there an alternative method ? easy fast hacky method ?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 2:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Uhh, no, game hacking isn't for people that don't want to put in any effort whatsoever. Scanning for commonalities is the fast and hacky method in all fairness. Aside from that you have to manually find each address that pertains to that value and somehow discern the differences between each address.

It really isn't that difficult to scan for commonalities and with that I suggest you either follow the good advice that many of us here, including myself, have given you and appreciate that we have taken the time to aid you in your endeavours. I don't mean to sound rude in any way just that at least put in effort and don't waste everyone's time.

There are even ample video tutorials on a well known video-sharing site that you can watch but to me it sounds like you just want spoon-feeding the answer.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LeFiXER wrote:
Uhh, no, game hacking isn't for people that don't want to put in any effort whatsoever. Scanning for commonalities is the fast and hacky method in all fairness. Aside from that you have to manually find each address that pertains to that value and somehow discern the differences between each address.

It really isn't that difficult to scan for commonalities and with that I suggest you either follow the good advice that many of us here, including myself, have given you and appreciate that we have taken the time to aid you in your endeavours. I don't mean to sound rude in any way just that at least put in effort and don't waste everyone's time.

There are even ample video tutorials on a well known video-sharing site that you can watch but to me it sounds like you just want spoon-feeding the answer.


Thanks for your time and effort....of course i want spoon-feeding answer...why should we waste time ?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

realmanX wrote:
...of course i want spoon-feeding answer...why should we waste time ?

Why would anyone want to waste time spoon feeding you, who are you to them? If you don't want to put in any of your time and effort, why should they put in their time and effort?

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheyCallMeTim13 wrote:
realmanX wrote:
...of course i want spoon-feeding answer...why should we waste time ?

Why would anyone want to waste time spoon feeding you, who are you to them? If you don't want to put in any of your time and effort, why should they put in their time and effort?

i already spent many days and hours on video tutorials and on finding values...
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