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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2018 1:29 pm    Post subject: new pc Reply with quote

*i might buy:

- Intel Core i7 - 6700K
- Asus Z - 170

so what do you think, suggest?

*yes i know they are 3 or more years old, but they fit my needs.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 1:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you are willing to spend just a little more on the processor (assuming you are buying new) you can get an 8700K for nearly the same price as a 6700K which is extremely better. It will cause you to need some more for the motherboard as well but the benefits are really worth the little extra.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 2:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the main reason is:

a friend of mine bought a new intel 8th gen cpu and succeeded installing win7, but he mentioned some issues he ran into. (like device driver related errors and some networking issues as well, but he fixed them of course and thanks to the patches)

thats why i thought of 6th gen, didnt want to run into all these and search here and there for any problem will or might occur.

i will double think before stepping forward, thanks atom.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 1:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can use newer gen chips with Windows 7, there is just a little bit of manual work needed to be done to get around the simple block and then manual driver handling. Basically, you would create a bootable USB drive that holds your Windows 7 install and manually add the drivers you need for your board and parts. Most brands will still carry Windows 7 drivers, which you can check ahead of time before buying to make sure the board and such you want to use is supported in that regard.

Then there are projects like this one that will disable the unsupported hardware notifications and such allowing you to still get updates if you want them:
https://github.com/zeffy/wufuc

There are similar projects to bypass the Windows 7 install stuff that may try to block you from installing on the newer chipset as well allowing you to install 7 as normal.

It's a bit of extra work, but the small added price for a much better processor is really worth it in my opinion.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 1:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

atom0s wrote:
Most brands will still carry Windows 7 drivers, which you can check ahead of time before buying to make sure the board and such you want to use is supported in that regard.

Asus Z170, Z270. and both work fine with 6th/7th Intel unlocked CPUs.

Intel's Z370 chipset required for 8th gen unlocked processor, which Asus wont provide drivers. (claiming only windows sh*t is supported)

atom0s wrote:
Basically, you would create a bootable USB drive that holds your Windows 7 install and manually add the drivers you need for your board and parts.

yes, also the UEFI have some legacy bios settings which may help.

manually adding the drivers for other parts is ok, but im worried about the board's drivers.

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really worth it in my opinion.

i agree it really worth (been thinking a lot), and much appreciated.
probably this will last couple years, i might have to do some research about 7 on Z370.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 12:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's a step by step guide that handles the install on Z370:
https://www.overclock.net/forum/6-intel-motherboards/1642446-how-install-windows-7-coffee-lake-pc-z370-chipset-mb-asus-maximus-x-hero.html

Depending on what brand of MB you want, you may have to shop around to find one that has all the drivers that will fit the same requirements and setup. But it is doable.

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