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darkedone02
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 6:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hope he opens the cheat request and cheat tables back up... i need a table for Torment: Tides of Numenera....
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 7:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

darkedone02 wrote:
I hope he opens the cheat request and cheat tables back up... i need a table for Torment: Tides of Numenera....

haha we gonna fall back to the dark ages of 90x where cheats practically didn't exist.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 7:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nibelton wrote:
darkedone02 wrote:
I hope he opens the cheat request and cheat tables back up... i need a table for Torment: Tides of Numenera....

haha we gonna fall back to the dark ages of 90x where cheats practically didn't exist.


I hope not... Better yet I doubt it...
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 7:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't understand why the trainers section was closed, considering all the trainers there are supposed to contain offsite links anyway.

But that may not be enough. They could slap you with thepiratebay argument, and say you're a content aggregator/facilitator.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 10:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just what to throw out a collective thanks to all the Table creators that I have used over the years. Thank you for letting my play Single player games on my own terms
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 10:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Github sucks, i mean it is nice for group projects but it is not without its problems.

And it still will not solve the problem, a copyright notice to them and they will shut you down. Which is actually the problem with other public sites as well.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 11:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

closed CE Scene ? where only way in is by invitation ? :DDDD
who knows...maybe it will help ?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 11:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nibelton wrote:
Marcus101RR wrote:
care to explain what is illegal

you are asking in the wrong place. i doub't they bothered to inform of DB of it. and why they would ? better leave you in the dark of unknown"danger"
that's psychological pressure. ppls, GOOGLE HOW TROLLS WORK ! stop bloating and creating something that ISN'T there.
the only way they can do anything,if they have proof of copyright violation.
i may know shit about legal thingy in USA,but there are SHIT TONS of websites that sell bots/hack to all kind of mmos and i don't see them bein' sued or anything.
not to mention CE does not provide hack by itself.
they just:
a) don't know what to do with thier lives rather than harras random website
b) targeting the root of the cheats,the program itself.
if B,then they can just go and attack C/C++/Java/etc. cuz there shit ton of that stuff made with them.
im pretty sure they actually can't do shit rather than just bully you.


Well, you know what. If it was me running this, unless it was a certified letter by a reliable legal administration of some sort and it was a DMCA takedown, I would ignore it and throw it in the garbage as if nothing happened.

You can't let stuff like this scare you or even force you to make changes unless there was absolute proof and guarantee that is has an legal standing. You know how many people use images and other copyrighted material for general use? No one is selling anything on here, and further more last I checked there was a disclaimer on here that stated that all this is for educational purposes, no? If not, might want to change that now. That way they can't say we are are all literal hackers trying to ruin the internet...

If this truely is how this is gonna end and we cannot post tables/trainers anymore. Then I guess im leaving...

PS: RIP Cheat Engine.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 3:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Future table downloads/trainer links Reply with quote

Codcat wrote:
Can you leave the table/trainer section unlocked but disallow file attachments? The creators of tables can just put a link in their table to an offsite url.


This would be by far the easiest way, no changes to the site whatsoever and each table/upload would be the responsibility of it's creator.
Authors could set-up a GDrive/Dropbox/OneDrive or whatever and keep their tables in there.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

anyone knows if recifence is going to post his tables somewhere. I need his work for my gameplay. In HOI IV and WH TW.

External hosting seems the only option btw. however what are te rules if the site is hosted in a proxy or another server in a country where these rules do not stricly apply(like china). Is it a possibility that that wil work.

Also what i find strange about this whole situation is. Why did they do a DDoS attack? If they would do it that is. Because the attack was at the same time as the claim right? on twitter it was suggested it could not be a coincidence.

Also i find it strange that there was a claim. It is not like CE is pirating or stealing anything. And such claims only come from big corporations if they smell money or are losing money. That is why i find this strange. There is nothing to gain. Right? It is easier for game devs to detect in online games cheats and cheat tables and it. For singleplayer games why would they care.

Also game devs are mostly not rich and Publishers could not care less. Money is money and they are not losing any.

So my conclusion on this whole business is that it or a troll, A prick. Or someone who hates CE for some reason(would not know) I work in the game industry and things like CE are not really dangerious. In singleplayer games it is generaly considered good that if on CE there is a Table for it. it means people love it enough to do so.

Multiplayer cheating i think is wrong. Only if like every player does it. it does not matter much. but still
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SunBeam wrote:
Darkie hasn't mentioned anything else in 1-2 days now. Let's wait for his reply, as the assumptions laid out here don't really illustrate the real deal.


This.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 10:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hint from here
http://forum.cheatengine.org/viewtopic.php?p=5719410#5719410

I guess I can share my *.CT while I updating them.

Does it work?
<dropbox shared folder link removed>
It is the dropbox shared folder link, by changing "dl=0" to "dl=1" as akumakuja28 suggested.
It should open as a Zipped file with my shared folder content.
The link seems not change as I add more file or directory under it on local disk.

Downside is ... eh, no download numbers to showoff~

Also, with predprey's idea (mainly '...a game's executable name/checksum'...)
http://forum.cheatengine.org/viewtopic.php?p=5719419#5719419

It may be possible that when a user subscribe some developer's fixed INDEX link,
where the INDEX describe the relationship between game hash and url of
the associated *.ct (or other resource), the user may be possible to be shown
all subscribed developers's work that on the game currently opened by CE identify by
game hash thing.
ie.
Code:

dev-side:
  work on game xxx, ver yyy, having hhh game hash on its *.exe,
  when he done his *.ct at time ttt, upload somewhere, it can be
  his own dropbox or github as long as internet access is possible,
  then Update the fixed INDEX url, like some *.json 
---
  ...
  "hhh" = {
  hash: hhh,
  resourceUrl: https://abcd.net/etg.ct?dl=123,
  filePath: etg.ct
  game: xxx,
  gamever: yyy,
  updateTime: ttt,
  }
  ...
--- 
user-side:
  The user manual check, or automatic check on openning a game process
  with game_hash HHH. What it check are his subscribed developers INDEX
  file on internet, if HHH exist in some INDEX file , then check its
  associated updateTime, if it is newer than the previosly downloaded version of this dev and
  this game hash, download the resource to user's disk, eg. in a directory
  <resourceRootPath>/game_hash/dev_id/<filePath>.

  (dev_id is assigned by user, as long as he know who the dev is and
  uniquely associated with this dev's INDEX url)

  The problem is automate the processes.

  btw, for a good 128bit hash algorithm, there is statiscally 2 the same
  hash for every 2^64 different content, if i'm not wrong~


bye~

ADDED:
I found the game hash idea may not work, as there may be different *.exe versions exist for same game same game version, ie. pirated with different crack. People like me using crack exclusively may have no intersection with legit paid game user by game hash identity.
A common protocol as predprey said is need.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 10:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you posted that in the wrong area.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 10:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

darkedone02 wrote:
I think you posted that in the wrong area.


me?
Where should I post then?
Thank you point the way.

anyway, I removed the dropbox link just in case.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 11:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

panraven wrote:
darkedone02 wrote:
I think you posted that in the wrong area.


me?
Where should I post then?
Thank you point the way.

anyway, I removed the dropbox link just in case.


What i'm saying is that this whole post you did don't sound like anything related... you totally came in randomly posting this.

hence why I said "I think you posted that in the wrong area". Thinking that you should of posted this on a different topic.
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