Cheat Engine

NotListed000 · Last edited by NotListed000 on Wed Feb 08, 2017 5:40 pm; edited 1 time in total

Hello, I've read a lot online about how to make cheat engine undetectable. But what about CE Trainers?

I know I could use Sandboxie with a game that doesn't allow Cheat Engine, and it'll all be fine. Isn't there another way to do this with CE Trainer development? I don't know much about trainer development, just the easy stuff.

Thanks, hope someone can help.

Greenhouse · Cheater Reputation: 0 Joined: 20 Aug 2016 Posts: 44

Did you try it with a File Unsigner?

NotListed000 · Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 5:03 pm Post subject: Yes

Greenhouse · Cheater Reputation: 0 Joined: 20 Aug 2016 Posts: 44

I tried it myself and it working without any File Unsigner.
The trainer works and the game doesn't close.

NotListed000 · Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 5:18 pm Post subject:

Greenhouse · Cheater Reputation: 0 Joined: 20 Aug 2016 Posts: 44

You need to unsign Cheat Engine, not the game.

NotListed000 · Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 6:13 pm Post subject:

Greenhouse · Cheater Reputation: 0 Joined: 20 Aug 2016 Posts: 44

Can you send me the traine+table? I'll try to open it.

Zanzer · Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 6:49 pm Post subject:

You can't name the trainer the same as the game. It will attach to itself.

NotListed000 · Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 6:51 pm Post subject:

STN · Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 4:10 am Post subject:

This is interesting to me, how the hell did you manage to make a working ce trainer in the first place? I mean if you were able to make a cetrainer in the first place, you must have unsigned/recompiled CE, in which case your trainer will NOT get detected. Maybe you stole it from someone?...idk but interesting

Anyhow, unsign your CE, make the trainer > profit.

Don't run the trainer in unsigner lmao, run CE!! which you have installed.

SunBeam · Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 4:14 am Post subject:

What's up with this "unsigning" and "detection" I read here? Have used CE's trainer maker once or twice in my life, and that was a few years back. Yeah, I can do my homework and read about it, but do humor me and post a quick summary Smile

STN · Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 4:21 am Post subject:

SunBeam · Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 4:27 am Post subject:

Ah, I saw that message several times now, but couldn't correlate with the big picture.

1. Does the "nasty message" pop-up when you open CE? Or when you target game process? (I somehow feel it's the first).

2. Is the game executable protected in any way? Denuvo?

3. If not 2, could you not simply attach to the game with x64dbg while message is on-screen and Alt+F9 (return to user) to find where the MessageBoxA call was triggered? (I think you can attach even with Denuvo in the background).

Just some thoughts.

P.S.: If you guys can share the game via Steam, I could take a look. Am not interested in anything else (haven't played any of them).

++METHOS · Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 4:45 am Post subject:

Yes, I'm sure finding the check would be really simple. If all they are doing is checking for a signature, that seems pretty weak.