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Arnold G. Blacklite
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 6:14 pm    Post subject: Hidden pointer values. Reply with quote

So, basically.. this game looks complicated to be hacked.. Anyways, all the display/real values are encrypted. So, I take the *logic* and tried to do the Unknown intial value.. unchanged/changed/increased/decreased.. Luckily, it seems that I had the display value. So, I wanted to find out what write to this address.. Luckily, I had everything perfect.. But, I took the value of the pointer and scanned it with 4 bytes first.. But got no addresses. Tried to use 'All' values. Nothing.. Tried to do wha'ever.. No values at all. So, I wonder how could I get the pointer address...
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

not really a tutorial....

why would you want the pointer of a display only value anyway?
You could possibly backtrace from the visual value to get to the real value. Sneaky mofo has a tutorial on youtube showing the method here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06t_hoWGa5c
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Arnold G. Blacklite
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know.. that is not a tutorial.. I would better ask a mod to move it.. I just wanted to ask a question, after all.. Found nowhere to post than here.. So, it is my mistake.. Sorry.

About the video, thanks.. I'll take a look.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 12:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No offense. But, it's very complicated.. I don't understand..

Lemme explain my problem much more wider..

Say like you have displayed in-game coins: 1,000,000

What if you tried many times to look after that value but didn't find it then switched your way of getting value by using 'Unknown initial value'...

So, basically.. I found the value. Finding the value is not really that complicated, but it must have experienced persons having a wide knowledge about getting easily the value. Very good.


When I tick the Active box of the value and try to buy something, the coins start to freeze. That's a good thing, then...

Let's say take our head straight to the important.. I ask myself many questions in Cheat Engine..

Isn't the pointer is your real value? Lemme know use the 'What writes to this address'.. Changing the value gets you two or three value of pointers.. Good. Are the pointers the real core values hiding behind the display values?
Lemme try.. I searched, added a new pointer address.. tried to change it and tick the active box, still no coins changed. I just want to understand.. what shall I do? How could I do it?

If you searched for something, changed it, didn't work.
If you searched for its pointer, changed it, didn't work.

THEN, WHO IS AFFECTING THAT VALUE? Where is the value? Isn't the pointer of a display value may lead me to a map whose end is to find the real value.. I'm confused.. I just want pro people here to understand my case and to explain it well to me.. What shall I do, in your opinions? Shall I backtrace the disassembler and try to toggle a breakpoint? Shall I inject a code that froze the value of it to a certain amount of specified coins.

Please, get me UNDERSTAND.. Someone explain/suggest/etc.. pls!
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 1:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

so you can freeze the value and it works? and now you want to find the pointer?

if the long way doesnt work(find out what writes/accesses) try pointerscan.

or use AOB injection on the instruction that writes to it and change the opcode to suit.
for example say the opcode that writes to your money is:

mov [edi+8f],ecx

you could change it to

mov [edi+8f],#1000 //or desired amount

this would keep your money at 1000 assuming its not in float or double.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I make it very simple..

mov [edi+8f],(int)9999

So, yeah.. doesn't work if I injected.. How to know the REAL value?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 2:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you just said you had the real value because you could freeze it and it worked....
and did you use the instruction i used as an example as if it was real?

please go over some tutorials on the forum and understand what you are wanting to do because you are not making alot of sense.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 2:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can you PM me?
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