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PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2016 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Dude you're dumb. A sparrow flew on Sanders podium. Don't you understand that it's a sign he'll be the next POTUS???

That's it, the sparrow finally stumped the Trump. It looks like we gotta pack up and go home.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2016 11:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When Kyle gets beat bc Sanders has nothing, he just talks about how much of a cocksucker Trump supporters are lmao. What a turd. So Kyle, how does it feel to be taking home $57k in San Francisco knowing that 95% of that is going towards your rent? Oh wait, you're probably renting out some guy's 300 sq ft. garage. Better vote Bernie so he can steal more of your money.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2016 11:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't even live in San francisco you dumb fuck. Way to prove again that you know nothing about me. I'm not even going to refute the other things you mentioned because they aren't even remotely accurate
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Now Kyle knows how everybody feels when he posts. Everything is pretty much inaccurate, skewed, or imagined.

Sure you aren't schizo? How old are you? In your early to mid twenties? You smoke a lot of pot, so around this age is when you're predisposed disease should show some symptoms

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I don't even live in San francisco you dumb fuck. Way to prove again that you know nothing about me. I'm not even going to refute the other things you mentioned because they aren't even remotely accurate

Okay well you probably make 20k solely from welfare at a bum bum town. And you live at your mom's basement. That's pretty much our assumption until you tell us otherwise.
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I love having retardicans on the internet trying to mock me when they don't know a thing about me personally
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sorry that media didn't give much hoot to sander winning the primaries. Trump is orchestrating a series of chess moves to suck away all the media attention from every candidate towards Cruz Sex Scandal and all throughout the next week. Trump is much smarter than Sanders.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2016 1:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know it's a long shot, but it would be really, really nice for him to pull this out of his ass. Here's hoping.
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I know it's a long shot, but it would be really, really nice for him to pull this out of his ass. Here's hoping.


Honestly, why

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I know it's a long shot, but it would be really, really nice for him to pull this out of his ass. Here's hoping.


Honestly, why
He is the best representation of my interests. I understand the opposition, that he will supposedly get nothing passed in congress, that he will be an ineffective leader, blah, blah, blah, but that's typical political slinging shit. No candidate can honestly get a lot of things passed as is. Trump has the Republican party in the bag, and the establishment Republicans (i.e. Congress) don't like him and won't want to work with him very much more than Hillary or Bernie.

So, regardless of how effective any leader can be with the current system, it's all about the way in which our country will progress. Personally, I see the concept of having someone who identifies as a "Democratic Socialist" on the ballot for the general election sends a huge message as to what America wants as the days go on. It's already removed a lot of fear off of the word.

I personally like Sander's for his pushes on health care and education. Health care for the obvious reasons that America's health care system is woefully out of control and is built in such a way that they try to milk as much money as possible from patients and insurance companies that getting ill to the point where you need medical attention (which is likely going to happen to everyone) could mean straddling you with immense debt. I'm against this, as an ideal, because the wellness of people should not be a profit driving machine.

I also like where he stands on education. I am not behind just blindly making all public colleges free (Do we really need to pay to allow people to brush up on women studies?), but I do think that there needs to be education reforms set up in such a way that it is easier for motivated, intelligent individuals to get into school without being straddled with enormous debt, and to acquire skills that will enable them to be more productive, make more money, and pay more taxes so that others can do the same.

He's against the rich, and I don't think you've ever said your stance on this, but I think it's obvious to most people that the rich are getting ridiculously richer while the middle class dies out and the poor gets poorer. We have all this "economic growth" that we preach as being the be all end all for America, and yet the vast majority of its citizens have not seen anything improving for them despite all of this growth. That's because, as Sander's is sure to remind people over and over, most of the new income generated goes to the top, and the top use it to make more money for them so they can make more money.

Bottom line, it's time for serious change in America. No, Sander's can't do it all on his own, not at first least of all, but on the slim chance that he actually gets the white house, then we just need to collective vote for senators who support him and we actually might be able to get shit done.

Also, regardless of what you think about him, his stances on a lot of issues have remained the same for his political career. He actually seems like an honest politician, which is rare. Additionally, he's been on the "correct" side of a lot of progressive things, so it's not like he's an idiot when it comes to society and what it needs.
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Have you read Trump's position on Health care and education? There are some official documents on his website on what he talks about with health care. Not so much on education and a lot of his stances I think you haven't been too well informed since I don't think you've seen many of his rallies. I think you should take your time to understand the position Trump's on because you will find a lot of commonalities and I think you will like it much better than Sanders. Also understand that Trump may seem vague in some of his position, and it may seem like I'm just saying to trust him, but I mean, essentially I am. If you look at his life. And you pay real close attention, he's been able to accomplish and set out to do the things he says he does. So he'll say I'll make this better or whatever without offering much explanation. You can be rest assured that he can make it happen as he has pretty much all his life. He's been able to tap into different industries and excel in them. Most people become a master at 1 thing and thats the only thing they can do. While Trump has been able to be the jack of all trades.

My position on the rich. I can't exactly pin point what's going on. The rich is getting richer, because they have infinitely more resources than the average American. They can position themselves and be much more nimble than the average American. I can't blame them for that since most of the rich are quite actually self made. I can probably put fault that the rich has been holding on to the wealth instead of redistributing it. But I am not an expert in these sort of things to talk about it as well as I can with others. I can only assume that that's the biggest problem as far as the wealth goes. But at the same time, I can't say that's their fault either. The wealthy doesn't like to spend they like to keep. Which brings me to another point.

I think that poor is a mindset. I've made plenty of mistakes in my short years as a professional. Keep in mind that I am much younger than you are or anybody else in this forum. I've been able to attract some opportunities my way that have made me a lot of money but lack of wisdom has also made me lose a lot of money. All that sort of stuff as far as mind set and mastery in skills I can write dozens of articles about but I believe poor is a mindset as I sort of observe with people I have met along the way. Im a very observant person and I was fortunate to be able to travel around the country meet and be personable with different types of people. So I make a lot of analysis about people's characteristics and habits and often I find patterns in their behaviors.

I don't want to drag this too long, but basically an example of why poor is a mindset is that the average person doesn't understand money. They spend as they come. They don't understand personal finance and it is also school system's fault for not teaching this. This is one of the most common habit a person has. They spend so much and keep so little. And when they keep, its only so they can make a big purchase. Remember, the wealthy keep, while the poor spends. The poor buy things that don't make them income, while the rich spends on things that produces income. The poor cares about love and relationships, while the wealthy cares about achieving. And it goes on. While you won't be rich by saving, your odds of being rich is decreased when you spend on random crap. And thats also another topic the tI don't wanna go on a tangent. But a small example would be buy a new car when it is the most depreciating asset. Poor people don't understand the concept of asset and liabilities. Its a simple concept and people think they know, but if they did we wouldn't have so many poor people. But yeah. Thats what my thoughts are on those.

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You are right that I haven't seend enough seen his rallies. I have done a bit of reading on his site, though. I've read his stances on health care, but I couldn't find much on education other than that he wants to get rid of common core, which I do think is a good thing, but I'd still like him to take a more aggressive stance on the fact that our generation is being milked for loans to attend college. Also, I just want to point out that DJT has had to close down many of his start up projects. Not that it's a bad thing, trial and error and all that, but he's far from a jack of all trades, more of a jack of many. All the same, I recognize he's a smart man, if just a little full of himself, but it's fair to say he's earned the right to be.

Education is the biggest one for me, I think that investing in education is investing in the future of your country. Our current college system is poised in such a way that students get shafted hard by rapidly and artificially inflating prices of tuition and books, and the fact that they "have" to attend college if they want to get a good job. This means that we're essentially saying to most people that you either do well enough to get a scholarship, or you are required to go into an un-bankruptable loan to actually have a shot at a decent living. This is a scam, just look at how the prices of college related things have risen due to this. It's very clearly
milking the youth of the country.

As far as health care goes, I do agree with some of his stances. Obamacare is a joke, and should be repealed, and I definitely agree with price transparency, but I fully think that it's not enough. I don't get why we can't have the government take care of health like every other country does. People argue that our high priced health care keeps us competitive because of all the R&D it allows us to do, but recent research papers indicate that it isn't the case at all, and most of the extra money American's are getting gouged for just goes into the pockets of the people at the top. I think the only reason we don't have universal health care already is that by not having it, fortunes can be made by exploiting the common man, and then you can use that fortune to lobby against change.

I suppose education and health care are the two biggest reasons I support Sanders. It serves to help the populous as a whole. It will mean a little more taxes, especially on the rich, but they currently make lunacy money anyway that doesn't flow back into society enough.

On the rich getting richer, you are right that part of the reason it happens is that they have more resources, but another part of the reason is all the tax breaks and corporate interest lobbying that have created this economic mess we're in in the first place. You are right that the issue is holding onto wealth instead of redistributing, and you're also right that the wealthy like to keep instead of spend, so what needs to be done about it? I believe at a certain point, you're making far more money than you need, and it would be better if your excess wealth goes to help the other people in the country (who without, you wouldn't have been able to build your wealth in the first place), instead of holing it all up in more stocks and bonds to make more money. This is the whole point of higher taxes for the rich, because they won't willfully give it away most of the time. America has some of the lowest tax rates in the world for the wealthy, and it's time for a change.

I will agree on "poor is a mindset" about halfway. There are of course edge cases of people who work hard and save as much as they can, but will remain poor due to some circumstances or another, but there is definitely the "poor mentality" of spending money as it comes, blowing any windfall that comes your way on large purchases of things they don't need. Just buying shit to make them happy. It's the poor mentality like this that fuels the American machine. Personal finance should be taught better in schools, but that's neither here nor there. However, we get to the point where we ask ourselves "what should be done?" These people are poor and are likely to remain poor for most of their lives. This is the "common man" of America, most of America is honestly poor, money spending machines.

I don't see the relevance though, you're right that a lot of people are bad with their money, but I don't see why they shouldn't be treated for their diseases when they're sick without spending an arm and a leg in the process, and I especially don't see why they should have to go into massive debt in order to attend a school on the hopes that afterwards they can find a good enough job to pay off that debt.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2016 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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No you're right, after I saw the rally in Washington when a little sparrow flew to the podium, I now believe that Sanders is the chosen one.

Reminder that Bernie has the largest crowds


So guys, here's Kyle's logic. Sanders drew in 35,000 crowds in Washington and about 10,000 in another rally of the same state one time. And he says that Sanders has the largest crowds.

Trump draws in an average of 12,000 crowds in all of his rallies. Of course, states where he is extremely popular, he draws in 35,000 others 25,000 etc etc. Pretty much every time Trump holds a rally, he fills the maximum amount that a person can get inside. Turning away thousands more outside who came in late. Trump has been holding rallies pretty much 2x day more recently. Sometimes 3x. There are cool down dates like the past couple days so I guess it's safe to say that he averages 1 rally a day since he first campaigned last year. And draws in 12,000 crowds. Maximum for the venues he could find.

But no, Sanders has 35,000 crowd in 1 state.

Sanders has the largest crowd.

Liberal logic in a nutshell for y'all
trump draws the most attention. Republican turn out has never been higher also the rates CNN/Fox charge for any "trump event" is like 40x normal prices
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No you're right, after I saw the rally in Washington when a little sparrow flew to the podium, I now believe that Sanders is the chosen one.

Reminder that Bernie has the largest crowds


So guys, here's Kyle's logic. Sanders drew in 35,000 crowds in Washington and about 10,000 in another rally of the same state one time. And he says that Sanders has the largest crowds.

Trump draws in an average of 12,000 crowds in all of his rallies. Of course, states where he is extremely popular, he draws in 35,000 others 25,000 etc etc. Pretty much every time Trump holds a rally, he fills the maximum amount that a person can get inside. Turning away thousands more outside who came in late. Trump has been holding rallies pretty much 2x day more recently. Sometimes 3x. There are cool down dates like the past couple days so I guess it's safe to say that he averages 1 rally a day since he first campaigned last year. And draws in 12,000 crowds. Maximum for the venues he could find.

But no, Sanders has 35,000 crowd in 1 state.

Sanders has the largest crowd.

Liberal logic in a nutshell for y'all
trump draws the most attention. Republican turn out has never been higher also the rates CNN/Fox charge for any "trump event" is like 40x normal prices

This, in the end, is the only thing that matters. Still doing good in IBM?
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Channel GannoK wrote:
Antagonist wrote:
No you're right, after I saw the rally in Washington when a little sparrow flew to the podium, I now believe that Sanders is the chosen one.

Reminder that Bernie has the largest crowds


So guys, here's Kyle's logic. Sanders drew in 35,000 crowds in Washington and about 10,000 in another rally of the same state one time. And he says that Sanders has the largest crowds.

Trump draws in an average of 12,000 crowds in all of his rallies. Of course, states where he is extremely popular, he draws in 35,000 others 25,000 etc etc. Pretty much every time Trump holds a rally, he fills the maximum amount that a person can get inside. Turning away thousands more outside who came in late. Trump has been holding rallies pretty much 2x day more recently. Sometimes 3x. There are cool down dates like the past couple days so I guess it's safe to say that he averages 1 rally a day since he first campaigned last year. And draws in 12,000 crowds. Maximum for the venues he could find.

But no, Sanders has 35,000 crowd in 1 state.

Sanders has the largest crowd.

Liberal logic in a nutshell for y'all
trump draws the most attention. Republican turn out has never been higher also the rates CNN/Fox charge for any "trump event" is like 40x normal prices

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