Cheat Engine

[grtnd]

Hello everyone,

I've ran into a problem finding base pointers in this particular game.
usually you can find pointers through pointerscanning, or alternativly through the cheat engine debugger.
neither of these options work in my case and that's because of the ridiciouls complex ways that this game stores it's pointers in.

this game hides it's base-pointers behind walls of register swaps and function calls which is making pointerscan's really difficult.
(i don't know if it intentionally does this)
most of the time, CE gave me pointerscanner error's because i set the maximium offset & level vales too high, and when it didn't, i got nothing of relevance anyway. (because all the rescans filters out everything and i ended up with 0 results)
this is strange because i'm sure my computer has enough resources to do big pointerscans.


anyway, since i couldn't use the pointerscanner i was forced to try and locate the base pointer through memory viewer instead. (the same way we all did before pointerscanning)

so i spent a long time yesterday trying to trace all the opcodes that affected my pointer, of course i couldn't find the original base pointer loading instruction, since the trail never seemed to end but i did find out what i stated above: that the base pointers are buried behind walls of register jumps (mov) and function calls/instruction jumps.

so in summary:
every pointerscan i've done on various different adresses has so far returned me nothing of relevance.

the base pointer is hidden behind ridiculous amounts of register swapping which makes it tricky, if not impossible to find manually.

in detail:
as far as i've managed to trace the pointer, i've found it jumps between around 3 unique registers 6 times while going through around 14 function calls and instruction jumps.
the biggest offset during a register jump (mov) of my pointer i recorded was 0x07DEA4 but since i've found some other unrelated offsets nearby that date slightly higher, i've made the assumption that all the offsets in the mov instructions that handle the pointer in question are under 0x80000

so i decided to give the pointerscan one last try before comming here.

i left all the values at default except for maximium offset which i set at 80000 and max level which i put at 8 (for the time being)

im 95% positive i have enough RAM and disk space as i monetize my memory usage during the scan process, i am also using the 64-bit version of cheat engine, but as always it turns up:

[Rydian]

Some games just straight-up don't have traditional pointers.

http://forum.cheatengine.org/viewtopic.php?t=572465

There's two other methods to use, Injection Copies would probably work best for you, though if editing the game code is a no-no an AOB to the structure might work (but is often slower to toggle on).

[Gniarf]

Ridiculous offsets like 0x07DEA4 make me think you're targeting a script variable, so have you tried modding the game?
Also, does your game use one of the following engines: renpy (python), rpg maker, kirikiri (japanese visual novels), java, or lua?

[grtnd]

[Gniarf]