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if gender was a social construct

 
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2015 2:38 am    Post subject: if gender was a social construct Reply with quote

then how could a non-cis person ever know what it would feel like to be "another gender" or want to be another gender, when the only way you could actually feel that way is by socially being raised to conform to it, ie masculinity and femininity and THEN rejecting those social construct wouldnt be because youre not comfortable in your body, but that society doesnt reflect how your body is seen by yourself.

its pretty much counter intuitive and impossible to be non-cis by simply existing
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2015 2:41 am    Post subject: Re: if gender was a social construct Reply with quote

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then how could a non-cis person ever know what it would feel like to be "another gender" or want to be another gender, when the only way you could actually feel that way is by socially being raised to conform to it, ie masculinity and femininity and THEN rejecting those social construct wouldnt be because youre not comfortable in your body, but that society doesnt reflect how your body is seen by yourself.

its pretty much counter intuitive and impossible to be non-cis by simply existing

Simple answer, their minds are not based in empirical reality. There's a reason why people think tumblr/sjw people are crazy

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2015 2:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

its like they went through a crisis and stopped before the existential part, having no self awareness and blaming outside reality
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2015 3:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Males and females act differently because nature has required them to- they need to fulfill completely different roles. Studies have shown that men and women brains are wired completely differently than each other. This basically proves that men and women behavior is wired into biology, not society. Society takes these behaviors and implements them into itself. Society creates the Barbies and the G.I. Joes, but only because they are more marketable to certain genders to begin with.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2015 3:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Males and females act differently because nature has required them to- they need to fulfill completely different roles. Studies have shown that men and women brains are wired completely differently than each other. This basically proves that men and women behavior is wired into biology, not society. Society takes these behaviors and implements them into itself.
yeah you're wrong right from the start m8
plenty of societies have different gender roles

"men and women brain wired completely differently" this is a social construct too, everyone's brains that are raised in different social ways is wired differently. just by being brought up as a male in a society that has constructed males to be dominant will change your wiring from females that are to be submissive

what the study would need to be, is to asses all cultures that have different gender roles. and it would also need to consider age. if an infant male and infant female are wired significantly different then thats worth looking into, but then if later on in life depending on society they can be wired opposite ways, then it doesn't really matter what biology says if we can change it (which is usually the case)
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2015 9:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brolock wrote:
Clifford wrote:
Males and females act differently because nature has required them to- they need to fulfill completely different roles. Studies have shown that men and women brains are wired completely differently than each other. This basically proves that men and women behavior is wired into biology, not society. Society takes these behaviors and implements them into itself.
yeah you're wrong right from the start m8
plenty of societies have different gender roles

"men and women brain wired completely differently" this is a social construct too, everyone's brains that are raised in different social ways is wired differently. just by being brought up as a male in a society that has constructed males to be dominant will change your wiring from females that are to be submissive

what the study would need to be, is to asses all cultures that have different gender roles. and it would also need to consider age. if an infant male and infant female are wired significantly different then thats worth looking into, but then if later on in life depending on society they can be wired opposite ways, then it doesn't really matter what biology says if we can change it (which is usually the case)


http://www.theguardian.com/science/2013/dec/02/men-women-brains-wired-differently

Men are better at motor skills, women are better at listening and feeling.

But I agree, if society forms gender roles, then how can you be a woman stuck in a man's body? What makes you a "woman"?
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2015 11:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

identifying as a different gender is more of a fetish
also, men and women's brains are pretty much wired the same while the main difference is hormones, a guy without very low testosterone would act the same as a fucking woman

gender roles might be psychological but your gender it self isn't, you might feel like a woman trapped in a man's body but you're still a male


it's testosterone what makes a guy want to get physical, achieve goals, argue, etc.

also, liking guys and wanting to wear women's clothing doesn't make you a woman, you'd be just a different guy

most of these guys/women who have gender problems are fucking nuts, I get harassed pretty often by trannies of both genders: these guys have a pretty distorted perspective

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2015 11:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mental illness thread?
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2015 1:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ControlAltDelete wrote:
mental illness thread?

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2015 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nirojan wrote:
ControlAltDelete wrote:
mental illness thread?
Top kek.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2015 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ControlAltDelete wrote:
mental illness thread?
meta social commentary thread

me losing faith in society thread
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2015 12:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Taking Sociology right now (as you may have noticed from my Social Norms video), I honestly believe many of the social studies to be faulty in the premise which lead to concluding fallacious conclusions. Every softer science these days seems to feel inadequate unless it becomes harder, more quantifiable, more scientific, more precise. That, it seems, would confer some sort of missing legitimacy in our computerized, digitized, number-happy world. It actually undermines the very heart of each discipline that falls into the trap of data, numbers, statistics, and charts. Because here’s the truth: most of these disciplines aren’t quantifiable, scientific, or precise. They are messy and complicated. And when you try to straighten out the tangle, you may find that you lose far more than you gain.

Humanities aren't a science. Stop treating them like one.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2015 7:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nirojan wrote:
ControlAltDelete wrote:
mental illness thread?


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