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justa_dude Grandmaster Cheater
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Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2015 11:10 am Post subject: ESL Drug Tests |
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I'm not an advocate of illegal drugs, but it's hilarious to me that ESL has announced that they will be drug testing e-sports "athletes" for all of their tournaments moving forward. I'd rather see athletes doped to the max, pushing human limits ever further. After all, that's what makes a horse race so damned interesting.
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TheIndianGuy Advanced Cheater
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Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2015 11:32 am Post subject: |
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| lol'd makes sense tho. i know stimulants were popular and when my brother and i used meth or adderall we played better. when i was playing league on meth 6 months ago i was so much better. like last hitting every minion, hitting all my skill shots, etc. and doing everything as efficiently as possible without wasting a second. gotta go fast
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gogodr I post too much
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Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2015 1:37 pm Post subject: |
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its simple, not everyone is comfortable taking the drug (adderall) in order to boost their performance (since it haves a lot of side effects and it's prolonged use will pretty much fuck up your brain/nervous system).
If no one is taking the drug, it is a leveled field where the athletes are competing with their talent. Taking the drug is pretty much just plain cheating and that is why it should be banned. The guys overdosing on adderall can kill themselves doing so if they please, but competing against others is out of the question. It would be like letting someone participate in a CS:GO tournament with ESP and triggerbot.
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Channel GannoK pffrt
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Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2015 2:27 pm Post subject: |
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| gogodr wrote: | its simple, not everyone is comfortable taking the drug (adderall) in order to boost their performance (since it haves a lot of side effects and it's prolonged use will pretty much fuck up your brain/nervous system).
If no one is taking the drug, it is a leveled field where the athletes are competing with their talent. Taking the drug is pretty much just plain cheating and that is why it should be banned. The guys overdosing on adderall can kill themselves doing so if they please, but competing against others is out of the question. It would be like letting someone participate in a CS:GO tournament with ESP and triggerbot. |
Lel. ESP. I wonder what the world would be like if only video gamers had ESP
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Michael Expert Cheater
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Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2015 3:24 pm Post subject: |
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i remember this one guy on twitch who took adderall while playing pubs in dota
and im like who the fuck plays pubs on adderall
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Euphorical Cheater
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figured after all the headlines and admissions
neway wut gunnuk said
that would be sick as fuck in the future if we could somehow implement esp into our eyes for military purposes
gg
I think i am going to try and develop future militarie
imagine
no need for hud
in 2065 i will implement a microcpu into my eyesocket
that will relay a display to my retinas
this display will work in sync with sensors worn on body ect bodyarmor helmet blahblah
that those sensors will pick up wifi signal relays to pinpoint peoples location along with infrared heat ect ect with sound analysis ect
all so the cpu knows where people are though walls and all this info will be relayed to my eyes
in the
form
of
a
red recticle lelelel
tl;dr
In the future I will have real life esp
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Channel GannoK pffrt
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Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2015 4:46 pm Post subject: |
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| Euphorical wrote: | figured after all the headlines and admissions
neway wut gunnuk said
that would be sick as fuck in the future if we could somehow implement esp into our eyes for military purposes
gg
I think i am going to try and develop future militarie
imagine
no need for hud
in 2065 i will implement a microcpu into my eyesocket
that will relay a display to my retinas
this display will work in sync with sensors worn on body ect bodyarmor helmet blahblah
that those sensors will pick up wifi signal relays to pinpoint peoples location along with infrared heat ect ect with sound analysis ect
all so the cpu knows where people are though walls and all this info will be relayed to my eyes
in the
form
of
a
red recticle lelelel
tl;dr
In the future I will have real life esp |
http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/a14086/darpa-contact-lenses-magnify-with-a-wink/
http://www.popsci.com/technology/article/2012-02/video-nano-enhanced-contact-lens-makes-augmented-reality-more-realistic
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Kurifodo I post too much
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Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2015 4:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Euphorical wrote: | figured after all the headlines and admissions
neway wut gunnuk said
that would be sick as fuck in the future if we could somehow implement esp into our eyes for military purposes
gg
I think i am going to try and develop future militarie
imagine
no need for hud
in 2065 i will implement a microcpu into my eyesocket
that will relay a display to my retinas
this display will work in sync with sensors worn on body ect bodyarmor helmet blahblah
that those sensors will pick up wifi signal relays to pinpoint peoples location along with infrared heat ect ect with sound analysis ect
all so the cpu knows where people are though walls and all this info will be relayed to my eyes
in the
form
of
a
red recticle lelelel
tl;dr
In the future I will have real life esp |
but dude, what if someone hacked into it? they could do some horrible shit if they took control of what you see and hear
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justa_dude Grandmaster Cheater
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Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2015 4:50 pm Post subject: |
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| gogodr wrote: | | If no one is taking the drug, it is a leveled field where the athletes are competing with their talent. Taking the drug is pretty much just plain cheating and that is why it should be banned. The guys overdosing on adderall can kill themselves doing so if they please, but competing against others is out of the question. It would be like letting someone participate in a CS:GO tournament with ESP and triggerbot. |
How about other stimulants, like caffeine and nicotine? How about other methods of generating focus, like meditating or hypnosis? Isn't it possible that it's a slippery slope and the playing field will never be truly level? For that matter, does it make any difference if the drugs are potentially hazardous? Don't people everywhere in every field make sacrifices for their craft?
Again, I am not advocating that anyone take illegal drugs. But you can get disqualified from a lot of sporting events after testing positive for crap that doesn't even carry warnings at the local health-food store. And I'm not sure that sports are improved as a result.
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Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2015 7:32 pm Post subject: |
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| justa_dude wrote: | | gogodr wrote: | | If no one is taking the drug, it is a leveled field where the athletes are competing with their talent. Taking the drug is pretty much just plain cheating and that is why it should be banned. The guys overdosing on adderall can kill themselves doing so if they please, but competing against others is out of the question. It would be like letting someone participate in a CS:GO tournament with ESP and triggerbot. |
How about other stimulants, like caffeine and nicotine? How about other methods of generating focus, like meditating or hypnosis? Isn't it possible that it's a slippery slope and the playing field will never be truly level? For that matter, does it make any difference if the drugs are potentially hazardous? Don't people everywhere in every field make sacrifices for their craft?
Again, I am not advocating that anyone take illegal drugs. But you can get disqualified from a lot of sporting events after testing positive for crap that doesn't even carry warnings at the local health-food store. And I'm not sure that sports are improved as a result. |
last i checked nicotine and caffeine dont and wont show up on a drug test lmfao
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TheIndianGuy Advanced Cheater
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Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2015 7:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Euphorical wrote: | | justa_dude wrote: | | gogodr wrote: | | If no one is taking the drug, it is a leveled field where the athletes are competing with their talent. Taking the drug is pretty much just plain cheating and that is why it should be banned. The guys overdosing on adderall can kill themselves doing so if they please, but competing against others is out of the question. It would be like letting someone participate in a CS:GO tournament with ESP and triggerbot. |
How about other stimulants, like caffeine and nicotine? How about other methods of generating focus, like meditating or hypnosis? Isn't it possible that it's a slippery slope and the playing field will never be truly level? For that matter, does it make any difference if the drugs are potentially hazardous? Don't people everywhere in every field make sacrifices for their craft?
Again, I am not advocating that anyone take illegal drugs. But you can get disqualified from a lot of sporting events after testing positive for crap that doesn't even carry warnings at the local health-food store. And I'm not sure that sports are improved as a result. |
last i checked nicotine and caffeine dont and wont show up on a drug test lmfao |
false. they show up on drug tests as does ibuprofin depending on the type of lab test used including levels. it's just not against the law so it doesn't matter and might be considered a waste of money doing these additional tests.
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HackOtaku I posted the 500000th topic
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| TheIndianGuy wrote: | | Euphorical wrote: | | justa_dude wrote: | | gogodr wrote: | | If no one is taking the drug, it is a leveled field where the athletes are competing with their talent. Taking the drug is pretty much just plain cheating and that is why it should be banned. The guys overdosing on adderall can kill themselves doing so if they please, but competing against others is out of the question. It would be like letting someone participate in a CS:GO tournament with ESP and triggerbot. |
How about other stimulants, like caffeine and nicotine? How about other methods of generating focus, like meditating or hypnosis? Isn't it possible that it's a slippery slope and the playing field will never be truly level? For that matter, does it make any difference if the drugs are potentially hazardous? Don't people everywhere in every field make sacrifices for their craft?
Again, I am not advocating that anyone take illegal drugs. But you can get disqualified from a lot of sporting events after testing positive for crap that doesn't even carry warnings at the local health-food store. And I'm not sure that sports are improved as a result. |
last i checked nicotine and caffeine dont and wont show up on a drug test lmfao |
false. they show up on drug tests as does ibuprofin depending on the type of lab test used including levels. it's just not against the law so it doesn't matter and might be considered a waste of money doing these additional tests. |
So if they take additional tests to test for them, and it's unlikely that they would ever use those tests, then they don't show up on a drug test.
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gogodr I post too much
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Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2015 8:13 pm Post subject: |
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| justa_dude wrote: | | gogodr wrote: | | If no one is taking the drug, it is a leveled field where the athletes are competing with their talent. Taking the drug is pretty much just plain cheating and that is why it should be banned. The guys overdosing on adderall can kill themselves doing so if they please, but competing against others is out of the question. It would be like letting someone participate in a CS:GO tournament with ESP and triggerbot. |
How about other stimulants, like caffeine and nicotine? How about other methods of generating focus, like meditating or hypnosis? Isn't it possible that it's a slippery slope and the playing field will never be truly level? For that matter, does it make any difference if the drugs are potentially hazardous? Don't people everywhere in every field make sacrifices for their craft?
Again, I am not advocating that anyone take illegal drugs. But you can get disqualified from a lot of sporting events after testing positive for crap that doesn't even carry warnings at the local health-food store. And I'm not sure that sports are improved as a result. |
same applies to other stimulants. Don't get me wrong, I don't give two shits about the drugs being hazardous or not to the people that consume them as long as they are doing it out of their own will.
Anything that gives the competitor an advantage over the others, should be banned and regulated.
Meditating or hypnosis will just trigger the potential the competitor has, it wont unnaturally boost him, so I guess that's fine. Even if the playing field "will never be truly level", it doesn't mean that there should not be any regulations and at least try to make it happen.
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I agree to any scripts banned but caffine and nicotine and alcohol that's a joke lol
that is essentially more than half of of age gamers
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