Cheat Engine

[coffeeAchiever]

Newbie here.

After following the Cheat Engine tutorial, I learned enough to completely dissect and create a trainer(!) for zdoom. Wow! A really short and sweet tutorial!

So then I tried my hand at a modern game, Payday: Heist. No success.

I wanted to ask a question about modern "blockbuster" games. I'm sure for certain things they must follow a particular paradigm the way a DBA creates schemas or a programmer implements try/catch blocks every time they do, for example, file access. There's a concept of "right and wrong" and very few people deviate from it.

What data type do modern games generally use for things like ammo and health? If I had to take a guess, it would be binary data, but this is my first foray into doing something like this.

ps- I know there are trainers for Payday Heist. This is purely for intellectual pursuit and curiosity.

Thanks!

[zm0d]

[coffeeAchiever]

Right. I was referring to marshaling data into a binary format in the sense that if you assume a 32 bit word, you can stuff multiple data items into it and access the structure using shifting and masking.

It's a PITA, but once you write handlers, it becomes trivial, it's fast, and of course it's small. But maybe machines are so big these days it's completely unnecessary.

The kind of thing you learn in school and promptly rarely (or never) use.


BTW... Success! You were totally 100% right on the money.

I was able to get my first addresses in Payday: Heist:

Crosskill .45 Pistol total ammo: float, 13070730
Crosskill .45 Pistol chambered: float, 13070758

Oh, yeah!!! I have to say, my first two experiences with Cheat Engine (zDoom and Payday: Heist) have been remarkably easy. This piece of software is pretty amazing. Seems like it would be just as useful in system administration as well as cheat engine writing.

[zm0d]