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PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 11:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can say there is and there isn't, it just depends on how you look at it.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 12:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can't fucking do anything, for a fucking reason.
We are all automatically designed to not do, something that can harm our survival chances, so we can fucking live, and continue living and reproduce.
It's all our human instinct. we all have free-will dude...! You just don't do stupid things like hit someone coz you got mad or something like that.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 1:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brillia wrote:
You can't fucking do anything, for a fucking reason.
We are all automatically designed to not do, something that can harm our survival chances, so we can fucking live, and continue living and reproduce.
It's all our human instinct. we all have free-will dude...! You just don't do stupid things like hit someone coz you got mad or something like that.


so do we have free will or not, you're contradicting your own statement within a few sentences
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If something isnt allowed, and I want to do it, I usually do it anyways.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

omg nirojan-sama so witty
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So if I walk into my living room and throw my phone at a window thats not free will?
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Still waiting for the OP to make his argument...

...surely not Bostrom's Simulation Argument.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

potaters wrote:
So if I walk into my living room and throw my phone at a window thats not free will?
nope, not if you were destined to do that already. in fact, rebelling and trying to prove your free will further shows you have none, what would you have to prove if you really did have free will
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 6:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brolock wrote:
potaters wrote:
So if I walk into my living room and throw my phone at a window thats not free will?
nope, not if you were destined to do that already. in fact, rebelling and trying to prove your free will further shows you have none, what would you have to prove if you really did have free will

You're implying I would do this after reading this thread. I'm saying doing what I said in my post when I woke up this morning for example.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

potaters wrote:
Brolock wrote:
potaters wrote:
So if I walk into my living room and throw my phone at a window thats not free will?
nope, not if you were destined to do that already. in fact, rebelling and trying to prove your free will further shows you have none, what would you have to prove if you really did have free will

You're implying I would do this after reading this thread. I'm saying doing what I said in my post when I woke up this morning for example.
then you would have no reason to do such a thing, meaning it wasn't your own decision
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 6:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brolock wrote:
potaters wrote:
Brolock wrote:
potaters wrote:
So if I walk into my living room and throw my phone at a window thats not free will?
nope, not if you were destined to do that already. in fact, rebelling and trying to prove your free will further shows you have none, what would you have to prove if you really did have free will

You're implying I would do this after reading this thread. I'm saying doing what I said in my post when I woke up this morning for example.
then you would have no reason to do such a thing, meaning it wasn't your own decision

You're still denying that I could do it (which I could have) sometimes people want to just do shit, BECAUSE WE HAVE FREE WILL
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 6:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

potaters wrote:
Brolock wrote:
potaters wrote:
Brolock wrote:
potaters wrote:
So if I walk into my living room and throw my phone at a window thats not free will?
nope, not if you were destined to do that already. in fact, rebelling and trying to prove your free will further shows you have none, what would you have to prove if you really did have free will

You're implying I would do this after reading this thread. I'm saying doing what I said in my post when I woke up this morning for example.
then you would have no reason to do such a thing, meaning it wasn't your own decision

You're still denying that I could do it (which I could have) sometimes people want to just do shit, BECAUSE WE HAVE FREE WILL
im not denying that you could do it, but that it was not your decision to do it.
we have free won't not free will. we can only stop actions but not begin them
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Decision implies will, or, at least the existence of will. If the decision of your parents gave birth to your existence, then that implies the existence of will. Even if your argument was that we exist only in a simulation, even programs make decisions through self-writing code and artificial intelligence. To say that such a sophisticated simulation was predetermined to one path would be naive. If anything, such a sophisticated program would have all outcomes predetermined purely for the sake of alternative outcomes resulting in free will...otherwise, you couldn't necessarily call it a simulation.

Additionally, surely, if someone or something was controlling me, I wouldn't waste so much time staring off in space and thinking of such trivial things that do nothing to benefit anyone. For what reason would I need to learn, for that matter?

Perhaps better to say that free will is limited, but does exist.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2014 9:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Everything already happened, it's all about destiny..!
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