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CheatEngine- Cant make the changes take real effect

 
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 12:17 pm    Post subject: CheatEngine- Cant make the changes take real effect Reply with quote

Hello everyone,
Right now, im trying to modify my attribute points in an mmo rpg game (multiplayer and online). The attribute points are used on the character making him stronger. So... the problem is tha:Even though i change the number of my attribute points through a pointer (which i have from the 'pointer scan') when i use them they dont truly change, its just a visual effect.

My actions:
I found the address for the attribute points (at least the displayed address, not a static or the one that truly changes the attribute points i have), and then i selected 'What accesses this address' option. The results are 6 rows of data (like in picture 1). The first 2 rows were already there even before touching my attribute points, while the other 4 came up after i played a bit with my points (the 2 ones in the between are for when my points are reduced, and the last 2 rows of data are made when i increase my points aka when i dont finalize my action and take my points back). More details about thse data are on picture 2.

After that i did a pointer scan and found some pointers like in picture 3,4 and 5. I took as many as i could (and not all 136 of them) and changed to my desired value.

So, please, any suggestion?

I can give u more pictures or any other information u might need.

Thank you in advance!



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The attributes points displayed address and 'what aceesses' to it
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Detailes for the address found on picture 1
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Results of pointer scan 1/3
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Results of pointer scan 2/3
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pointer scan3rdpage.JPG
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Results of pointer scan 3/3
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 12:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1: it's a static address so no need to find pointers
2: pointers will not help you if changing the value has no effect
3: the real value is not stored on your computer but on another computer. You only see the display value.
You can't change it from your computer. Only from the actual system you can change it

See it like changing the value on your bank statement or this value right here: 100

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 12:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

First of all thank you very much for answering, and so fast! Smile

1. How did u see it is a static address?
2. It has only 'display effect', because i cat use more than i truly have, even if it shows me i have 10.000 (Just to make it clear in case i said it wrong)
3. How do u know that too? Razz
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 1:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1:
mov eax,[game.exe+1446700]
that means that the address will always be on exactly the same location in memory

2: display value is the same as closing your eyes and imagining it's 10.000. No effect

3: as you stated it's multiplayer and online, and changing the value doesn't have any actual effect in the game.
That means the value is "server sided".
Server sided means that you are only told the current value, but are not in charge of it.
When you attach something you tell the server that you attack objectX. The server then checks if you're in range of that object, and if so, it will check your current attributes and calculates how much damage you did, and then sends back the results of that calculation
You don't tell the server your attributes, so the server doesn't take that into it's calculation

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 1:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dark Byte, thank you very much.
Take care Smile
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