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 Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 2:36 pm Post subject: Total idiot non geek. Not sure which chrome.exe to change |
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| I don't understand any of this, cos I am a self admitted idiot on computer stuff. How do I know which chrome.exe value to change? The ones on youtube are not on my list. Please help. Thanks. |
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Mohsen
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| Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 11:13 pm Post subject: |
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Try selecting with window title,
File->Open Process->Window List |
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| Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 1:22 pm Post subject: |
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| If this is a flash game, it's much easier to use firefox. There will only be 2 processes to choose from, and they are both called FlashPlayerPlugin. The right one to choose in this case would likely be whichever has the highest peak working set (viewable from windows task manager), but in the case of chrome it can vary greatly. |
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| Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 1:26 pm Post subject: |
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Tip:
Chrome > toolbox > tools > Task Manager > Right Click > show Processor ID.
Then convert the PID to hex and attach.
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| Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 1:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Mother of hack wrote: | Tip:
Chrome > toolbox > tools > Task Manager > Right Click > show Processor ID.
Then convert the PID to hex and attach. |
I don't use chrome however I guess it should be Process ID not Processor ID or am I wrong ? |
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| Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 1:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Mohsen wrote: | | Mother of hack wrote: | Tip:
Chrome > toolbox > tools > Task Manager > Right Click > show Processor ID.
Then convert the PID to hex and attach. |
I don't use chrome however I guess it should be Process ID not Processor ID or am I wrong ? |
Mistyped.. happens, but you don't have to troll you know..
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| Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 1:56 pm Post subject: |
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| Mother of hack wrote: |
Mistyped.. happens, but you don't have to troll you know.. |
I just wanted to make sure oO.
Thank you for letting me know it  |
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| Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 2:59 pm Post subject: |
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| Mother of hack wrote: | Tip:
Chrome > toolbox > tools > Task Manager > Right Click > show Processor ID. |
Neat! Major props to chrome for this feature.
So for flash games, you'll want to choose the one that says "Plugin: Shockwave Flash".
And just in case you don't know how to convert the PID to hex, just use this:
www[dot]binaryhexconverter[dot]com/decimal-to-hex-converter
You can also use calc.exe by switching to programmer view, copy/paste the number and click the Hex radio button.
#EDIT: I wonder if there's a way via lua script and/or a C++ console app to automate this?
Also, I can't be sure without extensive testing but it would seem that it is always the last chrome.exe in CE's process list. |
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| Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 10:19 pm Post subject: |
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| Rectangle wrote: |
#EDIT: I wonder if there's a way via lua script and/or a C++ console app to automate this?
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You can use LUA. Check windows API for OpenProcess and EnumProcesses.
msdn[DOT]microsoft[DOT]com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/ms684847%28v=vs.85%29[DOT]aspx
If you don't know how to call windows API check following topic which has been answered by TsTg.
forum[DOT]cheatengine[DOT]org/viewtopic.php?t=564041 |
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| Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 8:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Mohsen wrote: | | You can use LUA. Check windows API for OpenProcess and EnumProcesses |
That doesn't automate the task of figuring out which process to open, that simply opens a process. |
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| Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 12:15 am Post subject: |
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| Rectangle wrote: | | Mohsen wrote: | | You can use LUA. Check windows API for OpenProcess and EnumProcesses |
That doesn't automate the task of figuring out which process to open, that simply opens a process. |
Check the MSDN link I have you.
>> EnumProcesses |
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I don't need to. I already know what they do, as well as all other undocumented ntdll equivalents... but you're missing the point:
We still wouldn't know which pid to use without the aid of Chrome > toolbox > tools > Task Manager to tell us which pid relates to the name "Plugin: Shockwave Flash".
And it would be too hacky to install a window hook to open this tool and enumerate the contained listview, so I was more or less interested in (for example) how chrome allocates/stores these variables, and can be accessed via Lua in CE.
The most luck we could get out of EnumProcesses, toolhelp32 snapshot, etc functions would be comparing the names of each loaded module in each chrome.exe process to see if it matches "Plugin: Shockwave Flash", which I highly doubt but haven't tested.
Feel free to try this yourself if you want, but bear in mind that if you get lucky here then you'll still need to handle the scenario where more than one flash application is loaded (and possibly in separate processes), which could break your entire algorithm. |
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| Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 9:43 am Post subject: |
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Well,
Other way could be getting ForegroundProcess (which can be found in main.lua).
Put it in a function, and create hotkey, and than go to a game/youtube/watever uses flash, go into fullscreen and press the hotkey.
Simple to attach.
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| Rectangle wrote: | | I don't need to. I already know what they do |
If you knew then you would understand that chrome task manager is nothing than windows API..
If chrome task manager did it then it's possible to make your OWN.
Again I highly recommend you to read WIN32 API. |
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| Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 5:08 pm Post subject: |
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| Flash hacker wrote: | Well,
Other way could be getting ForegroundProcess (which can be found in main.lua).
Put it in a function, and create hotkey, and than go to a game/youtube/watever uses flash, go into fullscreen and press the hotkey. |
Yes, this would probably work, provided it doesn't give you the main process or a tabular process instead.
| Mohsen wrote: | | Rectangle wrote: | | I don't need to. I already know what they do |
If you knew then you would understand that chrome task manager is nothing than windows API..
If chrome task manager did it then it's possible to make your OWN. |
Your argument is invalid...
- Virtually every native Windows application is constructed/accessible via the API either directly or indirectly. However, this does not mean that everything is constructed via the API.
Some things are simply native to the application itself.
- Chrome's task manager IS NOT Windows Task Manager, nor does it behave the exact same way, and there are very few similarities.
A more comprehensive list of these similarities can be found by typing chrome://memory-redirect/ in the address bar.
- You could just as easily label a button "Task Manager" and make it execute something else entirely.
And just to smash any further talk of this, I've checked Spy++ and there is no child window/process which textually disambiguates an extension vs a plugin, let alone which plugin.
This is all information generated within the application itself, NOT via the Win32 API, and is based upon the html code/MIME types that a tab receives as well as other extensions/plugins which get loaded into the main process.
| Moshen wrote: | | Again I highly recommend you to read WIN32 API |
Again, starting with text-based adventure/RPGs via GW-BASICA in 16-bit DOS, I've been programming since Windows 3.1 was the latest version, and using WinAPI functions since before *.NET or Windows 98 even existed.
So unless you're trolling, this is now the second conversation in a row (that I know of) where you seem like you have something to prove at the expense of others who don't and could care less.
I'm starting to think I should just avoid any sort of future discussion with you, since it always boils down to you trying to boost your own ego over my own level of knowledge, which was my first impression of you to begin with.
This isn't the first time I've had to deal with kids like you, and it likely won't be the last, but self-participation is merely a choice. I just feel bad for all these wasted bytes on the CE forum databases.
This is where you either further attempt to prove me wrong, make false statements like "that wasn't my intention," or just plain say nothing like you did last time. Either way, I end this here and now.
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