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 Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 10:07 pm Post subject: That music tool I made a while back |
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Has been upgraded and reworked considerably. I'm meeting with the CEO of my mom's work, the inventor of many products and machines used offshore, because he's been trying to talk to me for the past month. He's expressed interest in helping me pursue this tool with financial support, and he's offered other things like plain tickets and paying for hotel costs just to go visit MIT. He's interested in the programs i've made and wants to just pick my brain a bit and see what I'm about. Going meet him thursday and hoping for the best. You may see my tool in a local music shop in the next few years.
Also, any one who may've made a copy of the original, I screwed up making the inner circle of fiths, so if you try to use it clockwise past the Cb, it's completely false. New one will be fixed, have chord info, few more scales, and transposition. Also the ability(because of the patterns I'm noted) to easily find inversions and the like. So the product will be as unpresumptuous as possible so that the beginning piano student can understand triads and the jazz god can reference relative scales in all modes at a glance while using an inner ring to tell him a chord to stem from as well as letting his sax friend use the same info at the same time and be perfectly in key.
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| Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 10:14 pm Post subject: |
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Why would you want a plain ticket? it's a fucking ticket with nothing on it.
but in all seriousness, good luck and remember me when you get rich.
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| Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 10:16 pm Post subject: |
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| SF wrote: | Why would you want a plain ticket? it's a fucking ticket with nothing on it.
but in all seriousness, good luck and remember me when you get rich. |
Oh lol, didn't even catch that
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| Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 10:26 pm Post subject: |
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| N1 GIMME MONEY THANKS XOXO
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| Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 10:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Good luck fractal man.
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| lolguiez, it was the paper one I made.
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| Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:24 am Post subject: |
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Why would someone just want to visit MIT? Wouldn't it be preferable to actually study there?
Also, good luck. Never really used the tool, and I don't know squat about music, so I'll just take your mothers CEOs word on that its good.
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I don't mean this as an insult but is this the same program where you told everyone a freezing bug couldn't be fixed because of a language/library limitation. The same bug I subsequently wrote code for and fixed in minutes? If so, given that I went through the source for that project I would recommend re-learning any aspect of Java or OOP you think you currently 'know'. Again, not meant as an insult. Just advice I have for the long-term feasibility of any project you attempt.
Note it would be particularly bad to accept venture capital from a non-technical benefactor in this case.
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| Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:32 am Post subject: |
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| Slugsnack wrote: | | I don't mean this as an insult but is this the same program where you told everyone a freezing bug couldn't be fixed because of a language/library limitation. The same bug I subsequently wrote code for and fixed in minutes? If so, given that I went through the source for that project I would recommend re-learning any aspect of Java or OOP you think you currently 'know'. Again, not meant as an insult. Just advice I have for the long-term feasibility of any project you attempt. |
So you just rewrote the whole program in another language? Because Java is a freezing bug, at least to me.
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| Don't know if trolling or genuinely considering performance of Java as it was 10 years ago
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| Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:48 am Post subject: |
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| good luck remember me pls
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| Slugsnack wrote: | | Don't know if trolling or genuinely considering performance of Java as it was 10 years ago |
>Java Language
Java 1.1 is probably the sweet spot in terms of the language itself (not talking about VM performance). Current languages standard library is bloated in comparison. Swing is great for designing/prototyping UIs, Generics are nice because they let you work like C++ templates and program in the generic style , the new I/O library is supposedly pretty great, but I dont believe Swing should be a core class, and that Generics should alter language.
>Java VM
Requires a constant background process (jqs) in order to speed up launch by precaching (1). Works at comparible speeds to Mono and .NET, but I think VMs in general are a crappy working enviroment (only one that I've tried and find bearable is Ruby).
In general, I would take Ruby over any other VM language that I know of, and if I MUST use Java, I'd probably use an offshot (particularly Scala, though I hear Closure is supposed to be nice).
1: http://java.sun.com/developer/technicalArticles/javase/consumerjre/
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No need for me to argue. All I need to do is point you at the gazillion firms using Java. Anyone categorically shunning a whole language as mainstream as Java is being ignorant. A language is just an implementation tool and as such is suited for particular situations. You should start thinking in a more mature way (i.e. pragmatic to business). I've seen several posts from you exhibiting rather narrow minded and arguably baseless views.
Furthermore, your initial complaint was about performance. Tell me why this would be a huge issue for OP's project. Given the respective trade-offs, Java is actually a sensible and justifiable implementation choice in this case.
But perhaps you're right. Java is a stupid language and the OP should rewrite his entire codebase in Ruby.
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| Slugsnack wrote: | No need for me to argue. All I need to do is point you at the gazillion firms using Java. Anyone categorically shunning a whole language as mainstream as Java is being ignorant. A language is just an implementation tool and as such is suited for particular situations. You should start thinking in a more mature way (i.e. pragmatic to business). I've seen several posts from you exhibiting rather narrow minded and arguably baseless views.
Furthermore, your initial complaint was about performance. Tell me why this would be a huge issue for OP's project. Given the respective trade-offs, Java is actually a sensible and justifiable implementation choice in this case.
But perhaps you're right. Java is a stupid language and the OP should rewrite his entire codebase in Ruby. |
So Scheme is bad because no one uses it? Or Ruby was bad before 1.8 because no one used it? I don't consider popularity or adoption necessarily a sign of a good language. Sure, its more common for a good language to be adopted, but thats not always the case, sometimes adoption is simply a matter of few choices or tough constraints. Also, languages evolve after being adopted, what was good once is not necessarily always good.
I am not shunning a language, if someday someone tells me, you HAVE to use Java, fine, whatever. When it comes to personal projects, or decisions I can make, I would not consider Java a viable languge. That is, of course, unless I was targetting a mobile phone or some embedded are whos primary chip functioned with a lightweight implementation of the Java VM, thus locking me from selecting other choices.
Also, OP is not a business, and theres no real business constraint which forced him to use the Java language for VM capacities over the Ruby VM. The reason he did pick it is probably because it was a language he knew or could get material for.
As to trade-offs, his only real requirements, I would think, are a mature library base, thorough documentation and material on language use/features, as well as portability to maximize user base. Name one of those things that Ruby, .NET or even Scala does not have.
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