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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 6:37 pm    Post subject: C++ Reply with quote

Looking to get into it and start learning something. What program would you recommend to do my coding in?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 6:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Visual C++ Express
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 6:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apotheoun wrote:
Visual C++ Express

Good luck running your shit on Unix based systems!
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Good luck running your shit on Unix based systems!


It's for personal use.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Admittedly it's easier to start with. But at my school, software engineering- and technical computing students were not allowed to follow any of the 'visual' courses because they were considered to be too easy. Instead we had to choose between C or C++. We could follow the 'visual' courses, but didn't get any points for them.

They are piss easy though. Mate of mine got certified for .NET. Scored 90/100 on the exam and all he did was read through a cheat sheet from an exam from 2007. Don't expect to learn the essentials from a programming language with 'visual' in it.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Augustine wrote:
Admittedly it's easier to start with. But at my school, software engineering- and technical computing students were not allowed to follow any of the 'visual' courses because they were considered to be too easy. Instead we had to choose between C or C++. We could follow the 'visual' courses, but didn't get any points for them.

They are piss easy though. Mate of mine got certified for .NET. Scored 90/100 on the exam and all he did was read through a cheat sheet from an exam from 2007. Don't expect to learn the essentials from a programming language with 'visual' in it.


Just a quick question because I am totally uneducated on the sort.

Where would you suggest I begin to learn C++?

I have really limited knowledge of Java and Javascript (Yes I know they are different). Also which program would you suggest instead for me to actually write the code with?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Augustine wrote:
Admittedly it's easier to start with. But at my school, software engineering- and technical computing students were not allowed to follow any of the 'visual' courses because they were considered to be too easy. Instead we had to choose between C or C++. We could follow the 'visual' courses, but didn't get any points for them.

They are piss easy though. Mate of mine got certified for .NET. Scored 90/100 on the exam and all he did was read through a cheat sheet from an exam from 2007. Don't expect to learn the essentials from a programming language with 'visual' in it.


Just a quick question because I am totally uneducated on the sort.

Where would you suggest I begin to learn C++?

I have really limited knowledge of Java and Javascript (Yes I know they are different). Also which program would you suggest instead for me to actually write the code with?

Well I had a class, and a teacher. So I wouldn't know what to tell you on the where. In terms of IDEs, I would suggest Netbeans. There are probably going to be a few other developers on this forum that would want to scratch my eyes out now, chanting 'Eclipse, Eclipse, Eclipse!', but I just really like Netbeans.

It's not so much the Visual C++, rather than the IDE you are somewhat forced to develop it in. I understand an IDE should provide a certain ease in rapid development, but Visual Express/Studio is just generating tons of pseudo-developers that are at a complete loss if they were to build that same application with notepad, and a command-line compiler.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Augustine wrote:
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Augustine wrote:
Admittedly it's easier to start with. But at my school, software engineering- and technical computing students were not allowed to follow any of the 'visual' courses because they were considered to be too easy. Instead we had to choose between C or C++. We could follow the 'visual' courses, but didn't get any points for them.

They are piss easy though. Mate of mine got certified for .NET. Scored 90/100 on the exam and all he did was read through a cheat sheet from an exam from 2007. Don't expect to learn the essentials from a programming language with 'visual' in it.


Just a quick question because I am totally uneducated on the sort.

Where would you suggest I begin to learn C++?

I have really limited knowledge of Java and Javascript (Yes I know they are different). Also which program would you suggest instead for me to actually write the code with?

Well I had a class, and a teacher. So I wouldn't know what to tell you on the where. In terms of IDEs, I would suggest Netbeans. There are probably going to be a few other developers on this forum that would want to scratch my eyes out now, chanting 'Eclipse, Eclipse, Eclipse!', but I just really like Netbeans.

It's not so much the Visual C++, rather than the IDE you are somewhat forced to develop it in. I understand an IDE should provide a certain ease in rapid development, but Visual Express/Studio is just generating tons of pseudo-developers that are at a complete loss if they were to build that same application with notepad, and a command-line compiler.


I am looking to honestly learn something and make programs that are beneficial to myself. So I appreciate the reality check when it comes to something that will actually let me learn something as opposed to having it thrown on a silver platter.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you even need to learn C++? If so, visual studio IS the best on Windows despite what Sir Ani says ;D. The "visual" part in the name doesn't mean you can't use C++ exactly like you would in netbeans, eclipse, notepad or anything else.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Do you even need to learn C++? If so, visual studio IS the best on Windows despite what Sir Ani says ;D. The "visual" part in the name doesn't mean you can't use C++ exactly like you would in netbeans, eclipse, notepad or anything else.


Well lets say I want to make a standalone program that pulls information or threads from a forum or website and displays it for me within my standalone client.

What is the best way to go about this? Also if I wanted to add other features which language would you say is best for this?


That is what I am trying to do. What is best?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sterling Archer wrote:
Noz3001 wrote:
Do you even need to learn C++? If so, visual studio IS the best on Windows despite what Sir Ani says ;D. The "visual" part in the name doesn't mean you can't use C++ exactly like you would in netbeans, eclipse, notepad or anything else.


Well lets say I want to make a standalone program that pulls information or threads from a forum or website and displays it for me within my standalone client.

What is the best way to go about this? Also if I wanted to add other features which language would you say is best for this?


That is what I am trying to do. What is best?


I recommend you try it in python. C++ is overkill for something that small when you don't already know the language
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Do you even need to learn C++? If so, visual studio IS the best on Windows despite what Sir Ani says ;D. The "visual" part in the name doesn't mean you can't use C++ exactly like you would in netbeans, eclipse, notepad or anything else.


Well lets say I want to make a standalone program that pulls information or threads from a forum or website and displays it for me within my standalone client.

What is the best way to go about this? Also if I wanted to add other features which language would you say is best for this?


That is what I am trying to do. What is best?


I recommend you try it in python. C++ is overkill for something that small when you don't already know the language


Ok also I know I'm sure that I am a pest, but do you happen to have any links to some starter websites where I could read them over and learn something? (python)
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