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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 2:15 pm    Post subject: Need math help please. Will give rep. Reply with quote

Curve, C, has equation y = x^2 + (4k+3)x+7

Line, L, has equation y = x + k

k is constant.
Given that L and C intersect at two distinct points show that 4k^2 + 5k - 6 > 0.

I know I'll have to use b^2 -4ac > 0. Not sure if I need to differentiate the curve and I'm not quite sure if I need to combine the two equations.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 2:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.wolframalpha.com/
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the answer is 4.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 2:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SGL wrote:
http://www.wolframalpha.com/

It doesn't do things like that.

SF wrote:
the answer is 4.

The answer is '4k^2 + 5k - 6 > 0' Sad Not sure how to get there.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Talix wrote:
please note i'm really benz'd right now

x+k=x^2+x(4k+3)+7
x+k=x^2+4kx+3x+7
k=x^2+4kx+2x+7
k-4kx=x^2+2x+7
k(1-4x)=x^2+2x+7
k=(x^2+2x+7)/(-4x+1)

4k^2+5k-6 > 0
4k^2+8k-3k-6 > 0
4k(k+2)-3(k+2) > 0
(4k-3)(k+2) > 0
k > 3/4
k < -2

that's as far as i can get you

nowhere is it stated that C = L

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Talix wrote:
The Grim Heaper wrote:
Talix wrote:
please note i'm really benz'd right now

x+k=x^2+x(4k+3)+7
x+k=x^2+4kx+3x+7
k=x^2+4kx+2x+7
k-4kx=x^2+2x+7
k(1-4x)=x^2+2x+7
k=(x^2+2x+7)/(-4x+1)

4k^2+5k-6 > 0
4k^2+8k-3k-6 > 0
4k(k+2)-3(k+2) > 0
(4k-3)(k+2) > 0
k > 3/4
k < -2

that's as far as i can get you

nowhere is it stated that C = L


Quote:
Given that L and C intersect

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 4:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Talix wrote:
The Grim Heaper wrote:
Talix wrote:
please note i'm really benz'd right now

x+k=x^2+x(4k+3)+7
x+k=x^2+4kx+3x+7
k=x^2+4kx+2x+7
k-4kx=x^2+2x+7
k(1-4x)=x^2+2x+7
k=(x^2+2x+7)/(-4x+1)

4k^2+5k-6 > 0
4k^2+8k-3k-6 > 0
4k(k+2)-3(k+2) > 0
(4k-3)(k+2) > 0
k > 3/4
k < -2

that's as far as i can get you

nowhere is it stated that C = L


Quote:
Given that L and C intersect


How at all does that make L = C. Are you fucking retarded?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sterling Archer wrote:
Talix wrote:
The Grim Heaper wrote:
Talix wrote:
please note i'm really benz'd right now

x+k=x^2+x(4k+3)+7
x+k=x^2+4kx+3x+7
k=x^2+4kx+2x+7
k-4kx=x^2+2x+7
k(1-4x)=x^2+2x+7
k=(x^2+2x+7)/(-4x+1)

4k^2+5k-6 > 0
4k^2+8k-3k-6 > 0
4k(k+2)-3(k+2) > 0
(4k-3)(k+2) > 0
k > 3/4
k < -2

that's as far as i can get you

nowhere is it stated that C = L


Quote:
Given that L and C intersect


How at all does that make L = C. Are you fucking retarded?


if they intersect it's because they both give the same value

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SGL wrote:
Sterling Archer wrote:
Talix wrote:
The Grim Heaper wrote:
Talix wrote:
please note i'm really benz'd right now

x+k=x^2+x(4k+3)+7
x+k=x^2+4kx+3x+7
k=x^2+4kx+2x+7
k-4kx=x^2+2x+7
k(1-4x)=x^2+2x+7
k=(x^2+2x+7)/(-4x+1)

4k^2+5k-6 > 0
4k^2+8k-3k-6 > 0
4k(k+2)-3(k+2) > 0
(4k-3)(k+2) > 0
k > 3/4
k < -2

that's as far as i can get you

nowhere is it stated that C = L


Quote:
Given that L and C intersect


How at all does that make L = C. Are you fucking retarded?


if they intersect it's because they both give the same value

...
If hey gave the same value there would be only one line/curve/watever graphed
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cryoma wrote:
SGL wrote:
Sterling Archer wrote:
Talix wrote:
The Grim Heaper wrote:
Talix wrote:
please note i'm really benz'd right now

x+k=x^2+x(4k+3)+7
x+k=x^2+4kx+3x+7
k=x^2+4kx+2x+7
k-4kx=x^2+2x+7
k(1-4x)=x^2+2x+7
k=(x^2+2x+7)/(-4x+1)

4k^2+5k-6 > 0
4k^2+8k-3k-6 > 0
4k(k+2)-3(k+2) > 0
(4k-3)(k+2) > 0
k > 3/4
k < -2

that's as far as i can get you

nowhere is it stated that C = L


Quote:
Given that L and C intersect


How at all does that make L = C. Are you fucking retarded?


if they intersect it's because they both give the same value

...
If hey gave the same value there would be only one line/curve/watever graphed

only when they intersect

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SGL wrote:
Cryoma wrote:
SGL wrote:
Sterling Archer wrote:
Talix wrote:
The Grim Heaper wrote:
Talix wrote:
please note i'm really benz'd right now

x+k=x^2+x(4k+3)+7
x+k=x^2+4kx+3x+7
k=x^2+4kx+2x+7
k-4kx=x^2+2x+7
k(1-4x)=x^2+2x+7
k=(x^2+2x+7)/(-4x+1)

4k^2+5k-6 > 0
4k^2+8k-3k-6 > 0
4k(k+2)-3(k+2) > 0
(4k-3)(k+2) > 0
k > 3/4
k < -2

that's as far as i can get you

nowhere is it stated that C = L


Quote:
Given that L and C intersect


How at all does that make L = C. Are you fucking retarded?


if they intersect it's because they both give the same value

...
If hey gave the same value there would be only one line/curve/watever graphed

only when they intersect

They can't be the same and not intersect wtf they overlap
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

since I assume you made this:
4k^2 + 5k - 6 > 0
and I don't really know how you came to that conclusion.

only because they intersect you can get this

x^2 + (4k+3)x + 7 = x + k

x^2 + (4k+2)x + 7 = k

x^2 + 4kx + 2x + 7 - k = 0

x^2 + (4x -1)k + 7 = 0

(4x -1)k = -7 - x^2

k = -(7 + x^2)/(4x -1)

2 solutions

x = 0 , k = 7
x = -28 , k = 7

how to?
just make roots out of it and you have a + and a - part where you can evaluate

go to:

http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=k+%3D+-%287+%2B+x^2%29%2F%284x+-1%29

Solutions for the variable x:
x = - sqrt(4 k^2+k-7)-2 k
x = sqrt(4 k^2+k-7)-2 k
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