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PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 11:45 am    Post subject: Aviar, or anyone who watched GitS, Reply with quote

What the fuck does Aeria Gloris mean? This whole time I used to think it meant "heavenly glory", but apparently, it could mean anything from the pride of a woman, to the open space. Need confirmation.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 1:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Era of Fame
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 1:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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proof please.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Era of Fame

proof please.

my word is enough proof
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Isaac. wrote:
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Era of Fame

proof please.

my word is enough proof

Your word makes me not want to believe.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 2:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It looks like it is supposed to be Latin, but the second word is not correct. Latin is an inflected language and the case endings determine how a word is translated in the sentence. Aeria is an adjective - the A ending makes it either a feminine nominative/ablative singular, or a neuter nominative/accusative plural. Gloris is not an accurate form of any Latin word. Gloria is the closest word I could find, which would be gloriis in the feminine dative/ablative plural. Which would not go with the first word all that well. "Lofty things to glorious deeds" is the best way that could be translated (using aeria as a neuter nominative plural). But it would be pronounced with the extra i sound - glor-ee-ees, not glor-ees. So if your source does not pronounce the extra syllable, then it is not a real Latin word.


aerius -a -um [belonging to the air, airy]; hence [high in the air, lofty]

gloria -ae f. [fame, renown, glory]. Transf., of a member of a group, [the pride, the glory; desire of glory, ambition, boastfulness]; plur. [glorious deeds]

also http://animeboards.com/showthread.php?t=57564
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It looks like it is supposed to be Latin, but the second word is not correct. Latin is an inflected language and the case endings determine how a word is translated in the sentence. Aeria is an adjective - the A ending makes it either a feminine nominative/ablative singular, or a neuter nominative/accusative plural. Gloris is not an accurate form of any Latin word. Gloria is the closest word I could find, which would be gloriis in the feminine dative/ablative plural. Which would not go with the first word all that well. "Lofty things to glorious deeds" is the best way that could be translated (using aeria as a neuter nominative plural). But it would be pronounced with the extra i sound - glor-ee-ees, not glor-ees. So if your source does not pronounce the extra syllable, then it is not a real Latin word.


aerius -a -um [belonging to the air, airy]; hence [high in the air, lofty]

gloria -ae f. [fame, renown, glory]. Transf., of a member of a group, [the pride, the glory; desire of glory, ambition, boastfulness]; plur. [glorious deeds]

also http://animeboards.com/showthread.php?t=57564

Already saw that. If you bothered to look at my thread and that, you'd see there's more then one definition in there, making your reply useless.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Isaac. wrote:
Nibelton wrote:
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It looks like it is supposed to be Latin, but the second word is not correct. Latin is an inflected language and the case endings determine how a word is translated in the sentence. Aeria is an adjective - the A ending makes it either a feminine nominative/ablative singular, or a neuter nominative/accusative plural. Gloris is not an accurate form of any Latin word. Gloria is the closest word I could find, which would be gloriis in the feminine dative/ablative plural. Which would not go with the first word all that well. "Lofty things to glorious deeds" is the best way that could be translated (using aeria as a neuter nominative plural). But it would be pronounced with the extra i sound - glor-ee-ees, not glor-ees. So if your source does not pronounce the extra syllable, then it is not a real Latin word.


aerius -a -um [belonging to the air, airy]; hence [high in the air, lofty]

gloria -ae f. [fame, renown, glory]. Transf., of a member of a group, [the pride, the glory; desire of glory, ambition, boastfulness]; plur. [glorious deeds]

also http://animeboards.com/showthread.php?t=57564

Already saw that. If you bothered to look at my thread and that, you'd see there's more then one definition in there, making your reply useless.

it's plain simply,interpret as you wish
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nibelton wrote:
Isaac. wrote:
Nibelton wrote:
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It looks like it is supposed to be Latin, but the second word is not correct. Latin is an inflected language and the case endings determine how a word is translated in the sentence. Aeria is an adjective - the A ending makes it either a feminine nominative/ablative singular, or a neuter nominative/accusative plural. Gloris is not an accurate form of any Latin word. Gloria is the closest word I could find, which would be gloriis in the feminine dative/ablative plural. Which would not go with the first word all that well. "Lofty things to glorious deeds" is the best way that could be translated (using aeria as a neuter nominative plural). But it would be pronounced with the extra i sound - glor-ee-ees, not glor-ees. So if your source does not pronounce the extra syllable, then it is not a real Latin word.


aerius -a -um [belonging to the air, airy]; hence [high in the air, lofty]

gloria -ae f. [fame, renown, glory]. Transf., of a member of a group, [the pride, the glory; desire of glory, ambition, boastfulness]; plur. [glorious deeds]

also http://animeboards.com/showthread.php?t=57564

Already saw that. If you bothered to look at my thread and that, you'd see there's more then one definition in there, making your reply useless.

it's plain simply,interpret as you wish

I need to know what it was supposed to mean it was sung. New question: Does anyone know who wrote the first opening?

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's just Latin haha. Aeria mean aerial, or having to do with the sky, and gloris means "of glory" or "of fame."


Latin to English doesn't have direct word-to-word translations, just idea-to-idea. The exact wording doesn't matter.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It's just Latin haha. Aeria mean aerial, or having to do with the sky, and gloris means "of glory" or "of fame."


Latin to English doesn't have direct word-to-word translations, just idea-to-idea. The exact wording doesn't matter.

Thanks, great to hear, so "Heavenly Glory" works?

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 4:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Isaac. wrote:
elpacco wrote:
It's just Latin haha. Aeria mean aerial, or having to do with the sky, and gloris means "of glory" or "of fame."


Latin to English doesn't have direct word-to-word translations, just idea-to-idea. The exact wording doesn't matter.

Thanks, great to hear, so "Heavenly Glory" works?
Nope. Glorious Heaven would be much better, but neither is very accurate. The "of" is kind of crucial.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

heavenly glory is most accurate.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

elpacco wrote:
Isaac. wrote:
elpacco wrote:
It's just Latin haha. Aeria mean aerial, or having to do with the sky, and gloris means "of glory" or "of fame."


Latin to English doesn't have direct word-to-word translations, just idea-to-idea. The exact wording doesn't matter.

Thanks, great to hear, so "Heavenly Glory" works?
Nope. Glorious Heaven would be much better, but neither is very accurate. The "of" is kind of crucial.

Ah, thanks.

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