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Hyena How do I cheat?
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Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 2:58 pm Post subject: How to find a negative number |
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Could anyone tell me how to find a negative number?
For example I want to find a memory address of -12439
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です Newbie cheater
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| Negative addresses do not exist.
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Dark Byte Site Admin
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Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 4:18 pm Post subject: |
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settings->general settings->show values as if they are signed
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Hyena How do I cheat?
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Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 2:20 am Post subject: |
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| です wrote: | | Negative addresses do not exist. |
Daaaa... It was quite obvious I meant an address of a negative number lol.
Anyways, how is a negative int type variable saved in memory? Bits are inverted and one additional bit is set to true/false ?
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24653187 Expert Cheater
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Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 10:22 am Post subject: |
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good question.
I will give you a list:
1 byte: 256 max
2 byte: 65536 max
4 byte: 4294967296 max
8 byte: ...........
so you should minus your value with 4294967296(as the values are usually 4 byte)
which sounds like this:
1 --> 4294967296-1=4294967295 --> 4294967295
so you type 4294967295
get it?
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Thlump Grandmaster Cheater
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Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 2:30 pm Post subject: |
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Negative numbers in 4 Bytes are exactly like the post above me.
Negative numbers in Double are different. In double, if you put -1 as a value it will stay as -1. If you put -1 as a value in 4 Bytes it will turn to 4294967295.
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24653187 Expert Cheater
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| Thlump wrote: | Negative numbers in 4 Bytes are exactly like the post above me.
Negative numbers in Double are different. In double, if you put -1 as a value it will stay as -1. If you put -1 as a value in 4 Bytes it will turn to 4294967295. |
he probably don't use double on flash 7, or he don't even need to use it, ya?
P.S the last post I posted work because:
1 byte: 00 to FF
2 byte: 0000 to FFFF
4 byte: 00000000 to FFFFFFFF
8 byte: 0000000000000000 to FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
addresses are 4 byte, so we usually use 4 byte
and you can minus the value by hex if you want... it could be easier, or not...
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Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 1:43 am Post subject: |
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| 24653187 wrote: | | Thlump wrote: | Negative numbers in 4 Bytes are exactly like the post above me.
Negative numbers in Double are different. In double, if you put -1 as a value it will stay as -1. If you put -1 as a value in 4 Bytes it will turn to 4294967295. |
he probably don't use double on flash 7, or he don't even need to use it, ya?
P.S the last post I posted work because:
1 byte: 00 to FF
2 byte: 0000 to FFFF
4 byte: 00000000 to FFFFFFFF
8 byte: 0000000000000000 to FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
addresses are 4 byte, so we usually use 4 byte
and you can minus the value by hex if you want... it could be easier, or not... |
Just wandering, do you know how to convert hex codes to decimals or whatever. Like v5= 7doesn't it?
Or if you could give me a website link or whatever it would help.
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Symbol I'm a spammer
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| 24653187 wrote: | | Thlump wrote: | Negative numbers in 4 Bytes are exactly like the post above me.
Negative numbers in Double are different. In double, if you put -1 as a value it will stay as -1. If you put -1 as a value in 4 Bytes it will turn to 4294967295. |
he probably don't use double on flash 7, or he don't even need to use it, ya?
P.S the last post I posted work because:
1 byte: 00 to FF
2 byte: 0000 to FFFF
4 byte: 00000000 to FFFFFFFF
8 byte: 0000000000000000 to FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
addresses are 4 byte, so we usually use 4 byte
and you can minus the value by hex if you want... it could be easier, or not... |
Yea, but there are signed values and unsigned values.
unsigned values are simple, not negative, 00 in hex is 0, A in hex is 10, 10 in hex is 16, FF in hex is 255...
Signed numbers works diffrently, values within the range of 0-79 (or 2 bytes 0-7999 or 4 bytes 0-79999999, etc...) are normal and numbers within range 80-FF (or 2 bytes 0-FFFF, etc...) are being "NOT"'ed. (Logical NOT, see more about Logical Operators)
Thats also how reversed jump works.
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24653187 Expert Cheater
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| buzzah wrote: | Just wandering, do you know how to convert hex codes to decimals or whatever. Like v5= 7doesn't it?
Or if you could give me a website link or whatever it would help. |
no need at all, there is a hex box on the left side of search input bar.
| Symbol wrote: | Yea, but there are signed values and unsigned values.
unsigned values are simple, not negative, 00 in hex is 0, A in hex is 10, 10 in hex is 16, FF in hex is 255...
Signed numbers works diffrently, values within the range of 0-79 (or 2 bytes 0-7999 or 4 bytes 0-79999999, etc...) are normal and numbers within range 80-FF (or 2 bytes 0-FFFF, etc...) are being "NOT"'ed. (Logical NOT, see more about Logical Operators)
Thats also how reversed jump works. |
that's called copying, dude.
anyway, that helps, ty.
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memoryscanme How do I cheat?
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Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 2:21 pm Post subject: easier way of finding negative values |
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its written above the maximum value, unfortunately most programs run as byte codes which do not provide a negative value so instead of looking for the negative value look for the max value of the byte like stated above, and then use it as a base like example:
65536(2byte)
i would like it to find ie. monster rancher 2 make it the worst in nature monster
1.get the address for the monster nature(blah)(blah)
2. now when you actually get it 0 - 232 is neutral
(for further explanations ask first but it's irrelevant)
3. now i would like to make that value assume a negative value in the game
4. opt for max value of the byte (in this case its 2 byte) and then just deduct from the a reasonable amount, in MR2 the nature follows a 999 system, so if you would like your monster to be worst in nature deduct 65536 by 999
and then, amazingly this makes your monster the worst natured monster in the game
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hope this helps! ^^
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IceTeaMan Newbie cheater
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Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 4:27 pm Post subject: Re: How to find a negative number |
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| Hyena wrote: | Could anyone tell me how to find a negative number?
For example I want to find a memory address of -12439 |
as a floating point:
C6425C00 would = -12439
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as a double floating point:
C0C84B8000000000 would = -12439
Cheat Engine can can search for ether of these types
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