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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 2:26 pm    Post subject: elpacco said something really intelligent. Reply with quote

elpacco wrote:
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They're being deprived of a lot of rights, although I do agree that most of them don't even know why they're there.

Occupy Sacramento for example is a fucking joke. They have a 'Message Team' working on the reason for why they decided to camp out at the Cesar Chavez park.

1% of the nation owns 50% of everything, and nothings being done to help the rest of the 99%. In 2008, a backdoor agreement was made to where the banks would use billions of tax payer money to bail themselves out, even though congress had voted No.
The nation is far from what it was at this point and is seen as a 'plutonomy' by the corporations who run it.
Welcome to capitalism. If you don't like it, no one's stopping you from moving to China.

If your opinion goes against the opinion of the vast majority, then move someplace where that's not the case, jesus fuck. Thank you for saying it.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 3:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

>elpacco
>intelligent


lmao
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

>complain about no money
>IF U DONT LIKE IT THEN JUST TAKE A SUPER EXPENSIVE PLANE RIDE AND RELOCATE YOURSELF IN AN ENTIRELY NEW COUNTRY.

because moving to a completely new place is so easy
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brolock wrote:
>complain about no money
>IF U DONT LIKE IT THEN JUST TAKE A SUPER EXPENSIVE PLANE RIDE AND RELOCATE YOURSELF IN AN ENTIRELY NEW COUNTRY.

because moving to a completely new place is so easy

There's always money. The term "poor" doesn't mean the same thing in the United States anymore. While we complain about not being given enough free things, there are people dying of malnutrition in backwards Third World nations. Let's not be envious of the rich elite. So what if they make substantially more money than we do? They earned it, and they are who provide jobs and products that both you and I want.


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Innovation wrote:
Brolock wrote:
>complain about no money
>IF U DONT LIKE IT THEN JUST TAKE A SUPER EXPENSIVE PLANE RIDE AND RELOCATE YOURSELF IN AN ENTIRELY NEW COUNTRY.

because moving to a completely new place is so easy

There's always money. The term "poor" doesn't mean the same thing in the United States anymore. While we complain about not being given enough free things, there are people dying of malnutrition in backwards Third World nations.
Shut the fuck up you stupid cunt just because other parts of the world are poor as fuck it doesn't mean people in the US/UK can't have completely legit money troubles.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 4:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

konr wrote:
Innovation wrote:
Brolock wrote:
>complain about no money
>IF U DONT LIKE IT THEN JUST TAKE A SUPER EXPENSIVE PLANE RIDE AND RELOCATE YOURSELF IN AN ENTIRELY NEW COUNTRY.

because moving to a completely new place is so easy

There's always money. The term "poor" doesn't mean the same thing in the United States anymore. While we complain about not being given enough free things, there are people dying of malnutrition in backwards Third World nations.
Shut the fuck up you stupid cunt just because other parts of the world are poor as fuck it doesn't mean people in the US/UK can't have completely legit money troubles.

I'm just trying to put it into perspective that developed nations are still better off than many other places in the world, so we shouldn't be trying to destroy the whole system.

"But with all the imperfections of our present government, it is without comparison the best existing or that ever did exist." - Thomas Jefferson


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

konr wrote:
Innovation wrote:
Brolock wrote:
>complain about no money
>IF U DONT LIKE IT THEN JUST TAKE A SUPER EXPENSIVE PLANE RIDE AND RELOCATE YOURSELF IN AN ENTIRELY NEW COUNTRY.

because moving to a completely new place is so easy

There's always money. The term "poor" doesn't mean the same thing in the United States anymore. While we complain about not being given enough free things, there are people dying of malnutrition in backwards Third World nations.
Shut the fuck up you stupid cunt just because other parts of the world are poor as fuck it doesn't mean people in the US/UK can't have completely legit money troubles.
Sure they can, but the way they're bitching about it and starting riots is simply retarded.

The poor people in the US don't realize how good they have it. There are poor people in every single country in the world, but poor Americans have a higher quality of life than the poor people of any other nation.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

elpacco wrote:
konr wrote:
Innovation wrote:
Brolock wrote:
>complain about no money
>IF U DONT LIKE IT THEN JUST TAKE A SUPER EXPENSIVE PLANE RIDE AND RELOCATE YOURSELF IN AN ENTIRELY NEW COUNTRY.

because moving to a completely new place is so easy

There's always money. The term "poor" doesn't mean the same thing in the United States anymore. While we complain about not being given enough free things, there are people dying of malnutrition in backwards Third World nations.
Shut the fuck up you stupid cunt just because other parts of the world are poor as fuck it doesn't mean people in the US/UK can't have completely legit money troubles.
Sure they can, but the way they're bitching about it and starting riots is simply retarded.

The poor people in the US don't realize how good they have it. There are poor people in every single country in the world, but poor Americans have a higher quality of life than the poor people of any other nation.
I don't really see how any of that is relevant.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes the poor here have it good ( most of them, not the actual homeless people who are treated like shit), and no they shouldn't complain, it really isn't that bad for most of them, but that doesn't mean they have enough money to get up and leave everything behind.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brolock wrote:
yes the poor here have it good ( most of them, not the actual homeless people who are treated like shit), and no they shouldn't complain, it really isn't that bad for most of them, but that doesn't mean they have enough money to get up and leave everything behind.
I completely disagree. I'd honestly say it's probably cheaper to fully move all your possessions and buy a house/farm in China than to pay just a few months rent for an average apartment in America.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brolock wrote:
yes the poor here have it good ( most of them, not the actual homeless people who are treated like shit), and no they shouldn't complain, it really isn't that bad for most of them, but that doesn't mean they have enough money to get up and leave everything behind.

Sure they can leave. And anyway, assuming they aren't able to now, if they were given the money to leave, do you think they would? I don't. There is significantly more opportunity here than elsewhere. The real problem is that we have leaders who believe we can let people fall into the welfare safety net only to never get back up again. Individuals need incentive to work. If we reward them when they do nothing, they most likely won't make any plans on doing anything in the future. This is not to say that we shouldn't help out those severely in need. I just don't think we can afford to let so many people sit around and do nothing. We want jobs, right? Why, then, do we attack those who provide jobs?


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 5:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Innovation wrote:
Brolock wrote:
yes the poor here have it good ( most of them, not the actual homeless people who are treated like shit), and no they shouldn't complain, it really isn't that bad for most of them, but that doesn't mean they have enough money to get up and leave everything behind.

Sure they can leave. And anyway, assuming they aren't able to now, if they were given the money to leave, do you think they would? I don't. There is significantly more opportunity here than elsewhere. The real problem is that we have leaders who believe we can let people fall into the welfare safety net and have them not try to get up again. Individuals need incentive to work.
Exactly my point. No one would move to China or another country because of the opportunity we have here. And you know why we have opportunity? Because of fucking capitalism.

If anything, welfare should just be extremely nerfed(?) if not gotten rid of entirely. There's one thing if someone has a legitimate reason why they can't work (i.e. injury, sickness), but the vast majority of people on welfare are just dumb-as-fuck urbanites who are too lazy to get off their ass and work. They'd honestly prefer living on welfare than getting a job at a fast food place.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you told them to leave even though you said you know they wouldn't. pretty confusing bro.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brolock wrote:
you told them to leave even though you said you know they wouldn't. pretty confusing bro.

elpacco was offering the door out in case someone would want to take it. It's always an option, although not a particularly appealing one (for a very good reason).


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brolock wrote:
you told them to leave even though you said you know they wouldn't. pretty confusing bro.
I wouldn't say that's confusing at all. It's showing the fallacy in their argument.
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