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OpenFly Newbie cheater
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Posted: Mon May 09, 2011 10:04 pm Post subject: Value is not changing! |
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Space Pirates and Zombies
I have a game that just came out 6-12 hours ago give or take, and I want to change the money and the skill points. However, whenever I find the value of the money and skill and change it, the value in the game do not change. I do not know what to do, I'm using CheatEngine 6.0 or what ever the latest is.
Example: I find the code, change it from 429 to 2000 freeze it. Nothing changes, the value is still 429. The value shows up in many different areas like, float, 4 bytes, 2 bytes but, non of them change the game money.
Or, post me a method to my problem and ill try and do it myself, as I don't know what tipe of method to use to change the values in my game.
Thank you
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trickster How do I cheat?
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Posted: Tue May 10, 2011 3:31 am Post subject: |
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i have the same problem with re5 changing the results
i find the adres i change them but when i save the changes discard
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Posted: Tue May 10, 2011 3:40 am Post subject: |
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| Well, hopefully someone will point us to a tutorial that will help us or take the time to just explain what me might do different to have the changes work.
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Posted: Tue May 10, 2011 4:05 am Post subject: |
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After changing the value you must first change the amount of money inside the game (spend or get some) before it is updated visually
And if all else fails try changed/unchanged scans to find it (unless it is an online game in which case it won't work)
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trickster How do I cheat?
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Posted: Tue May 10, 2011 4:41 am Post subject: |
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yeah but the adres keeps changing
example i have killed 100 enemies its rigestered in the game
i want to change it to lets say 200
so i find the adres change it and it saz 200 but when i save and reload the game goes back to the 100
any idea why this happens ?
how can i make it save the changes i make in the adres like 04FBCAA4
i tryd changing the adres then going in game then saving but when i reload the adres is now 04FBCA88 and only the actual killed enemies has been added not the ones i add trough hex
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Dark Byte Site Admin
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Posted: Tue May 10, 2011 4:50 am Post subject: |
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Reloading will randomize all addresses making scanning useless so when looking for the address do not load a save to scan for a new value
Also, disconnect from the internet, because it sounds like a stat it might have sent it to a server on the web
Anyhow, kill an enemy, and search for the number of enemies killed (use the all type if possible)
Then kill another enemy and search again, and again and again
Eventually you'll have a manageable amount of addresses. (100 or less)
Change a few, kill an enemy and check the value. Is it changed to what you changed it to +1 ? If not, try other addresses.
If you have tried them all and none worked then perhaps it's stored as total enemies alive
Or even as a string
and if all else fails, try changed/unchanged scans: (4 byte or float recommended)
Kill an enemy, changed.
Walk around and shoot walls, unchanged
Jump like a frog, unchanged
Hurt but don't kill an enemy, unchanged
Kill that enemy, changed
repeat that a few times till you get a bunch of results
Then use the memory view to see if you can figure out what those addresses mean
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OpenFly Newbie cheater
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Posted: Tue May 10, 2011 4:53 am Post subject: |
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| Dark Byte wrote: | After changing the value you must first change the amount of money inside the game (spend or get some) before it is updated visually
And if all else fails try changed/unchanged scans to find it (unless it is an online game in which case it won't work) |
I know the basics for finding ingame value, I've done it before with other games were I wanted more money and it worked, however when I find the value for this game "Space Pirates and Zombies" the value of the money does not change, it always stays the same.
Basically when I find the value that changes as the money in the game does, I would freeze it or make it grater, when I do increase the value of the money, the money that is in the game stays the same.
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Posted: Tue May 10, 2011 6:56 am Post subject: |
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Probably you have found the wrong value. It maybe just a copy of the real value. Keep searching until you find the value that is really storing your money.
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OpenFly Newbie cheater
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Posted: Tue May 10, 2011 12:17 pm Post subject: |
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| I guess that's really all there is to it? No easier method?
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Posted: Tue May 10, 2011 1:43 pm Post subject: |
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You can try to figure out how is that value updated and what is the source. But you need to be familiar with ASM to do that. Probably it is easier to keep searching for unknown value. Changed/unchanged etc searches.
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jhawson How do I cheat?
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Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 6:29 am Post subject: |
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your the best geri
Thank you for your trainers
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Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 11:14 am Post subject: |
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| jhawson wrote: | your the best geri
Thank you for your trainers |
Thank to Dark Byte because I would be lazy to make trainers in C.
To be back on topic, Space Pirates and Zombies:
I have found the amount of Rez, it is near the value that you have found.
For example:
copy of money (rez) on 4 bytes (that you have found already):
13CE73A0
real money (rez):
13CE6B40
Code that is reading your Rez:
| Code: | 005576E0 - 8B 01 - mov eax,[ecx] //accessing value of rez
005576E2 - BA FFFEFE7E - mov edx,7EFEFEFF
005576E7 - 03 D0 - add edx,eax
005576E9 - 83 F0 FF - xor eax,FF
005576EC - 33 C2 - xor eax,edx
005576EE - 83 C1 04 - add ecx,04
005576F1 - A9 00010181 - test eax,81010100 |
As you can see from the code, it is encrypted. This is not the full encryption, it is longer but I guess you will find it anyway.
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| I had some values that wouldn't stay at what you put them, or they change to another value when trying to change it. Also I was able to do code injection to see if this would help. When trying to apply it to make a trainer it doesn't do anything. So what is wrong?
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OpenFly Newbie cheater
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Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 3:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Code: | To be back on topic, Space Pirates and Zombies:
I have found the amount of Rez, it is near the value that you have found.
For example:
copy of money (rez) on 4 bytes (that you have found already):
13CE73A0
real money (rez):
13CE6B40
Code that is reading your Rez:
[code]005576E0 - 8B 01 - mov eax,[ecx] //accessing value of rez
005576E2 - BA FFFEFE7E - mov edx,7EFEFEFF
005576E7 - 03 D0 - add edx,eax
005576E9 - 83 F0 FF - xor eax,FF
005576EC - 33 C2 - xor eax,edx
005576EE - 83 C1 04 - add ecx,04
005576F1 - A9 00010181 - test eax,81010100[/code]
As you can see from the code, it is encrypted. This is not the full encryption, it is longer but I guess you will find it anyway. |
I don't understand how you found the real Rez Address but, what I did to find my values is, I would first look fore it then do a "What does this address write to" and go from there... But that's probably wrong...
When you found the real address wore you able to change the money in game? And did you do anything different to find it? Maybe you can send me to a tutorial on this site that could help?
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Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 3:53 pm Post subject: |
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Not sure, could be he found it using changed/unchanged/Same as first scan scans. Or he found it by looking at the memory view window and noticed that whenever that memory changed this address changed as well
Or he just debugged the code that wrote the display value and traced back to how it got that value
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