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noob question/issue with freezing values

 
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Teufelaffe
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 1:40 pm    Post subject: noob question/issue with freezing values Reply with quote

So, I can do the simple stuff with CE, such as finding a value in-game and changing it. However, checking the box to freeze the value just doesn't seem to work. I'm sure I'm missing something in the process, but any suggestions folks might have would be great. Some games I've used CE in, but can't get a value to freeze:

Divinity 2: Dragon Knight Saga
Torchlight
Dragon Age: Origins
Dragon Age 2


EDIT: Figured out what I was doing wrong with the cheat table. Still have issues with freezing values though.


I'm running Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What happens when you change the value? Are you sure you are trying to freeze the right values?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Geri wrote:
What happens when you change the value? Are you sure you are trying to freeze the right values?


Well, in Divinity 2, changing the value does nothing in game. It would appear to be the correct value, since CE shows what's in-game. For example, I search for my current mana value of 225. I cast a spell in-game, pause the game, and then search in CE for the new value of 198. CE finds that value. If I set the value to anything in CE, then switch back to the game and un-pause, my mana is still at 198, and slowly increases. If I pause the game and switch back to CE, the value is now the same as what the game shows (203 in this case). The value in CE changes to reflect what is in-game, but any changes I make in CE have no impact in-game.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When you search for values in the game, even if a value seems to be the right one, it may be just a copy. For example it may happen that you find 3 values:


1. Health's value in Float which is the real health.
2. Health's value in 4 bytes which is the displayed value that you see on the screen.
3. Health's value in Double for whatever evil purposes.

This was just a purely random example which has nothing to do with your game (that I have never hacked unfortunately). The conclusion is, you can find many values that has the same amount that you search for, but yet they may be mostly useless for you. It may happen that you change the displayed number and in a fraction of a second, it will be updated to show the correct value again. What you need to find is the real health value, which may be stored in a different way than you think.

You need to keep searching and if you find the value that has some effect when you change it, that will be the right one.

I would suggest to search for Float type values. Probably these games are using float to store mana and health.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll play around with searching for Float values. Thanks!
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