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I'm curious what religious affliction the majority of CEF is.. (expected atheist). So I'll start with my story; I'm a atheist, but because I live in America, for economic reasons I am Christian. I'm guessing Europeans don't have problems like this, but if not I'm curious.
Edit: I'm a closet atheist because i have a nice job because of telling people i'm a christian.
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How can you be both at the same time... it doesn't even make sense. You are saying that you live as a christian, even though you know it's a scam/fake?
When it comes to religion, I like to just look at things from the most outside-the-box perspective I can. We have facts, and they are either true or not true. The Earth is not less than 6,000 years old. It doesn't matter if you believe it is... because it's a proven fact that it's not.
Even if you recognize religion as fake, but think of it as a good children's story about how people should live their daily lives... you are still taking it way out of perspective. The bible tells us that women should be disrespected, sacrifices should be legal, tons of ridiculous stuff. Just take a look at this:
http://www.humanistsofutah.org/2002/WhyCantIOwnACanadian_10-02.html
George Carlin said it best:
"And for those of you that look to the Bible for it's literary qualities and moral lessons; I got a couple other stories I might like to recommend for you. You might enjoy The Three Little Pigs. That's a good one. It has a nice happy ending. Then there's Little Red Riding Hood. Although it does have that one X-rated part where the Big Bad Wolf actually eats the grandmother. Which I didn't care for, by the way. And finally, I've always drawn a great deal of moral comfort from Humpty Dumpty. The part I liked best: "and all the king's horses, and all the king's men couldn't put Humpty together again." That's because there is no Humpty Dumpty, and there is no God. None. Not one. Never was. No God."
And one more point. Just as an example, what if the Earth is indeed only 6,000 years old, and god just created everything to make it look as if it were older? Well then doesn't that mean god is trying to hide his existence, and we shouldn't worship him at all? Isn't it a little disrespectful to laugh at him and say "haha, you hid yourself well, but we know you exist"?
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Religion Explained
Also, Atheist. But I'm sure the Bible is an entertaining book, if you're into that stuff...
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The religion I follow is so secret I'm not even allowed to speak the name of it to people not worthy enough to hear it.
It is of course the one and only true and correct religion and all others are wrong
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| Dark Byte wrote: | The religion I follow is so secret I'm not even allowed to speak the name of it to people not worthy enough to hear it.
It is of course the one and only true and correct religion and all others are wrong |
Mormon?
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| Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 1:59 pm Post subject: Re: Religious views |
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| NooksCranny wrote: | | I'm curious what religious affliction the majority of CEF is.. (expected atheist). So I'll start with my story; I'm a atheist, but because I live in America, for economic reasons I am Christian. I'm guessing Europeans don't have problems like this, but if not I'm curious. |
This just sounds like you are either:
A. To immature to make a rational decision on your own.
B. To afraid to believe one or the other for some given reason.
The economy when to shit because of poor politics, poor spending, and poor judgment calls. Not because of 'God' or some religious reason. 'God' also isn't going to be the reason to gets fixed or better.
I don't believe in 'God' but I'm also not an atheist as I don't conform myself to another group based on a religious belief. Religion to me is just a past time people use to have some bit of hope and faith to look forward to when they die.
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| Quote: | | I don't believe in 'God' but I'm also not an atheist as I don't conform myself to another group based on a religious belief. Religion to me is just a past time people use |
^this.
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I'm a christian.
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| Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 3:38 pm Post subject: Re: Religious views |
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| Wiccaan wrote: | | NooksCranny wrote: | | I'm curious what religious affliction the majority of CEF is.. (expected atheist). So I'll start with my story; I'm a atheist, but because I live in America, for economic reasons I am Christian. I'm guessing Europeans don't have problems like this, but if not I'm curious. |
This just sounds like you are either:
A. To immature to make a rational decision on your own.
B. To afraid to believe one or the other for some given reason.
The economy when to shit because of poor politics, poor spending, and poor judgment calls. Not because of 'God' or some religious reason. 'God' also isn't going to be the reason to gets fixed or better.
I don't believe in 'God' but I'm also not an atheist as I don't conform myself to another group based on a religious belief. Religion to me is just a past time people use to have some bit of hope and faith to look forward to when they die. |
I think u misunderstood what i said. I tell people i am christian because it net me a better job. Most of the u.s. is christian and people find it offense if you openly state you are an atheist, so i guess you could say I'm a closet atheist.
I simply don't believe because no religion brings scientific proof.
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I'm a "I'll believe whatever I want and refuse to believe what x y and z tell me without proof"
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| Oblivious wrote: | what's the one that's most annoying
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Islam?
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I don't follow any religion. I do believe you should help others without expecting something. This can be small things or it could be larger. Depends on how far one wishes to take it. Could even be something as ordinary as holding a door, or saying hello to a stranger.
I think in some senses all religions have some things right, and they all have a lot of things wrong. If you subscribe to the notion that we have been visited by aliens and early man has mistaken them for gods. Which I find as hard to believe as a all knowing all seeing infallible creator. I think aliens is a bit more plausible. Who knows.
The honest truth is, that no one knows for sure. They may believe they do, but do they really? One day we will all find out though.
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| HakATaco wrote: | | I'm a christian. |
Me too
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| AhMunRa wrote: | I don't follow any religion. I do believe you should help others without expecting something. This can be small things or it could be larger. Depends on how far one wishes to take it. Could even be something as ordinary as holding a door, or saying hello to a stranger.
I think in some senses all religions have some things right, and they all have a lot of things wrong. If you subscribe to the notion that we have been visited by aliens and early man has mistaken them for gods. Which I find as hard to believe as a all knowing all seeing infallible creator. I think aliens is a bit more plausible. Who knows.
The honest truth is, that no one knows for sure. They may believe they do, but do they really? One day we will all find out though. |
I respectfully disagree with most of what you said. I believe (funny word used to disregard facts) that 90% of the bible is about revenge, sacrifice, slavery, and worship. When reading the bible, it seems every once in a while, you may come across a vaguely-worded sentence that can be interpreted as a good moral lesson.
Being kind is simply a product of evolution. Compassion activates the brain's reward system. Helping each other out allows us to thrive as a species. Even animals are compassionate (a mother caring for her litter).
Zecharia Sitchin was a brilliant story-teller, but his ideas are too preposterous to be taken seriously.
You can spend your whole life thinking "maybe this, maybe that"... or you can take comfort in just acknowledging our little world for exactly what it is: the product of physical laws.
We have a very good understanding of exactly how the universe and life has developed. We don't really need religion anymore -- instead we have science.
If you put atheism in the same category as religion, it has one advantage that no other religion does: proof. When you have proof, it doesn't matter what you believe... if you believe something other than the proof, then you are fooling yourself. And with how much proof we have today, there aren't any religions that are left plausible.
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