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gogodr
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 10:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I didn't approve the use of my Cheat engine logo there :/

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And... it is actually under the Creative Commons license

http://gogodr.deviantart.com/art/CEF-New-Logo-102302137
http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/3.0/

it is non commercial but there is this part:
Waiver — Any of the above conditions can be waived if you get permission from the copyright holder.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 11:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For Burrocrates: Just to be clear, gogodr is talking about the header : http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_bCUdWR7H0Zk/TUC8nS2aVKI/AAAAAAAAAD4/5Asrez3cjBE/s1600/CEF_New_Logo_by_gogodr.png
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 11:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't know if You care, I am not trolling just giving feedback:

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Cheat Engine is an open source tool designed to help you with modifying single player games running under window so you can make them harder or easier depending on your preference(e.g: Find that 100hp is too easy, try playing a game with a max of 1 HP), but also contains other usefull tools to help debugging games and even normal applications.


running under Windows , at least I think that would be the correct text.

And useful.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 11:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That comes from the about ce text on ce's site (I'll fix it there)

anyhow, when this has been cleared up(it's just one image that can be easily replaced with one of the already designed logos) i'll clean this thread and resticky again

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 11:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any reason someone with 100 posts and just joined this year is heading this topic in the first place? Sounds more of a scam then anything to anyone looking at the topic.

Any information regarding the funds? Any confirmation from you, DB, that this is legit so people aren't concerned against getting scammed?

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 11:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dark Byte wrote:
That comes from the about ce text on ce's site (I'll fix it there)

anyhow, when this has been cleared up i'll clean this thread and resticky again


Yep I know, it is obviously not important in a description so I didn't mention it to You but it may be important on a commercial site. So I was thinking I just post it here.

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Any reason someone with 100 posts and just joined this year is heading this topic in the first place? Sounds more of a scam then anything to anyone looking at the topic.


I was thinking the same at first sight. A link from the main CE page to the store could be good. If You want.



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When will the site "go live"? As You said "coming arrival", I suspect it is not fully operational.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We've been communicating over the pm system for a few weeks and I've given him permission to use the ce logo in that merchandise.
As for the 100 posts that's just for him to be able to post url's (he had 0 posts)


And for the chance that it might be a scam: Well it could be, so don't order bulk amounts. First see if it's actually legit and working. (Like with everything online)

Worst case scenario is that it is a scam and someone loses a bit of money without getting their product. But in that case I'll just remove all references to it and withdraw my support
And even if I don't get anything there will be people walking around with CE stuff, which is a positive thing by itself

But for now, just let's see how it evolves

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 12:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To be honest without you doing the store 100% yourself, I wont ever purchase anything from it.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 12:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I support this idea its great that there could be some great merchandise and would help Dark byte in expanding on the website
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 12:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well a contract and a shared bank account (or at least access to see incomes) would be a greater insurance.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 12:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hackerdvm wrote:
since you are the site Administrator couldn't you just get his Ip address and beat the crap out of him if it is a scam lol......


You sir, do not know how IP's work.

Given the fact that he had 0 posts to begin with meaning hes new or new account, that's a bit more unsettling to the community. Sounds more or less so him trying to find a way to profit of off Cheat Engine assuming anyone on here will buy anything from the store.

Not bashing the idea, but I wouldn't trust it.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gogodr wrote:
I didn't approve the use of my Cheat engine logo there :/

Apologies, I have removed the design


Geri wrote:

@Burrocrates
When will the site "go live"? As You said "coming arrival", I suspect it is not fully operational.

The actual merch store is up and running. Someone could buy now if they chose to. By "go live" I meant that DB will be adding a link on his main page in the next couple of weeks.

We simply wanted to get more designs into the system and see if this sparked any interest before commit to that task.


In regards to the questions about a scam, well all I can say is no it is not. I have recently started a business with my brother where we build merch stores for groups, charities, and blogs.

Having used plenty of open source softwares I have seen many "Please Donate" links and buttons. What we are doing here is providing an alternate avenue for donations.

In regards to actual purchases i defer to the Zazzle User Agreement and Privacy Policy as Zazzle will be producing, billing, shipping and distributing royalties associated with each order.

Please let me know if you have any questions.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok thanks. It isn't hard to look up some info about the company so it is not operating in a garage with 2 person. The comments about their customer service are kinda interesting but stupid customers and customer services are not uncommon and they have a nice number of visitors.

As the idea behind this thing is to support the CE project, is it public how much share will go to DarkByte? I think this is important if someone want to buy stuff from there because obviously no one will purchase anything if like 5% will go to DB.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 1:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Geri wrote:
As the idea behind this thing is to support the CE project, is it public how much share will go to DarkByte? I think this is important if someone want to buy stuff from there because obviously no one will purchase anything if like 5% will go to DB.


The actual royalties will go to DarkByte as donations on behalf of cheatengine.org.

The royalty amounts vary per product but are generally around 20%. Keep in mind that because we do not provide the inventory and all printing is on demand, Zazzle will keep their product cost (which in our case is about 80%).
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 1:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Burrocrates wrote:
gogodr wrote:
I didn't approve the use of my Cheat engine logo there :/

Apologies, I have removed the design

Thanks
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