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PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 11:28 am    Post subject: The end of IPV4 Reply with quote

Decided to post the whole article here, just in case they took it down or they prevent hotlinking.

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(Reuters) - Thirty years after the first Internet addresses were created, the supply of addresses officially ran dry on Thursday.

But don't panic. The transition to a new version of addresses is already well under way and, for most people, should occur without even being noticed.

At a special ceremony in Miami on Thursday, the organization that oversees the global allocation of Internet addresses distributed the last batch of so-called IPv4 addresses, underscoring the extent to which the Web has become an integral and pervasive part of modern life.

Every computer, smartphone and back-end Web server requires an IP address -- a unique string of numbers identifying a particular device -- in order to be connected to the Internet. The explosion of Web-connected gadgets, and the popularity of websites from Google Inc to Facebook, means that the world has now bumped up against the limit of roughly 4 billion IP addresses that are possible with the IPv4 standard introduced in 1981.

The solution is IPv6, a new standard for Internet addresses that should provide a lot more room for growth: There are 340 undecillion IPv6 addresses available. That's 340 trillion, trillion, trillion addresses.

"If all the space of IPv4 were to be sized and compared to a golf ball, a similar-sized comparison for IPv6 would be the size of the sun," said John Curan, the CEO of the American Registry for Internet Numbers, one of five nonprofit organizations that manage Internet addresses for particular regions of the world.

Just in case you're worried, Curan added that "we don't ever intend to see another transition."

For companies with websites, the transition to IPv6 means configuring their computer equipment to support the new standard rather than upgrading hardware, Curan said. Those that don't could see the performance of their sites slowed down, and potentially cut off to some users in the future.

Laptops, smartphones and other Web-connected gadgets, as well as Web browsers, already support IPv6, though Curan notes that according to some estimates less than 1 percent of Internet users may not have their equipment configured properly and will need to adjust their settings in the months ahead, as websites increasingly adopt the new standard.

(Reporting by Alexei Oreskovic, editing by Gerald E. McCormick)

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 11:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

WOW, I knew this would come soon.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gonna requote this because it's fun to think about.

we will probably approach the heat death of the universe before we run out of ip addresses again.

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thankfully ipv6 has enough addresses for every single atom in every single persons body on the entire planet and more


clocking in at a mere: 340,282,366,920,938,463,463,374,607,431,768,211,456


we could have been consuming 100 trillion addresses per second for 1 billion years straight and we would still have more to go.

better yet, at a rate of 850 trillion (not too far from a quadrillion!) addresses every nanosecond for as long as the earth has been known to have existed (about 4.5 billion years), we would still have addresses to spare.

imagine if a cheeto was an ip address. you could create a mass of cheetos heavy enough to dwarf the weight of the moon with comical ease. in fact, you could do this 9001 billion times over and still be good. that's a lot of cheeto moons.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 1:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

slovach wrote:
gonna requote this because it's fun to think about.

we will probably approach the heat death of the universe before we run out of ip addresses again.

slovach wrote:
thankfully ipv6 has enough addresses for every single atom in every single persons body on the entire planet and more


clocking in at a mere: 340,282,366,920,938,463,463,374,607,431,768,211,456


we could have been consuming 100 trillion addresses per second for 1 billion years straight and we would still have more to go.

better yet, at a rate of 850 trillion (not too far from a quadrillion!) addresses every nanosecond for as long as the earth has been known to have existed (about 4.5 billion years), we would still have addresses to spare.

imagine if a cheeto was an ip address. you could create a mass of cheetos heavy enough to dwarf the weight of the moon with comical ease. in fact, you could do this 9001 billion times over and still be good. that's a lot of cheeto moons.

Holy shit that's a lot of cheetos.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 1:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

slovach wrote:
gonna requote this because it's fun to think about.

we will probably approach the heat death of the universe before we run out of ip addresses again.

slovach wrote:
thankfully ipv6 has enough addresses for every single atom in every single persons body on the entire planet and more


clocking in at a mere: 340,282,366,920,938,463,463,374,607,431,768,211,456


we could have been consuming 100 trillion addresses per second for 1 billion years straight and we would still have more to go.

better yet, at a rate of 850 trillion (not too far from a quadrillion!) addresses every nanosecond for as long as the earth has been known to have existed (about 4.5 billion years), we would still have addresses to spare.

imagine if a cheeto was an ip address. you could create a mass of cheetos heavy enough to dwarf the weight of the moon with comical ease. in fact, you could do this 9001 billion times over and still be good. that's a lot of cheeto moons.

Thats enough cheetos to cure world hunger for ever!
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

slovach wrote:
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Epic comparison.
Well, IPv6 will be rolled out for the masses soon, so no panic :>
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 9:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hao2ipv6?
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 1:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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hao2ipv6?

Just wait for it.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 2:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

K, Alcohol wrote:
slovach wrote:
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Epic comparison.
Well, IPv6 will be rolled out for the masses soon, so no panic :>

providers won't be rolling it out "masses", because is not reinforce by the govt, requires shitload of effort, with other shits that service provider don't want to tell.

you'll be seeing advertisement labeled "IPV6 READY" soon, but not everyone will be at ipv6 anytime within the US at this current rate.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 2:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also all modems,PC, and routers will have to support IPv6
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 3:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Saifallofjmr wrote:
Also all modems,PC, and routers will have to support IPv6

And we need the service provider to give a damn too, aren't they just going to use up all their reserved blocks and start to use NAT until they feel like is time for IPv6?

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 11:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SF wrote:
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hao2ipv6?

Just wait for it.
The world is gonna end on that day.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 11:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

With IPV4 officially ran out, how will new devices connect to IPV6, most importantly how will our current devices migrate to IPV6?

A few questions are in my mind right now, but don't seem to have a definite answer.

1. Do we all have to change our current routers and broadband (cable or DSL) modems in order to support IPv6?

2. Since our devices are already connected with IPV4, is it required for us to move to IPV6 or it's only for the "new" devices that wants to connect.
example: A person never had internet connection and right now is their very first time. Can they still get a router that will support IPV4 or do they have to get a router that needs to support IPV6?


3. IPV4 address is easy to remember and configure especially when you need a static IP
e.g. 192.168.101.111

IPV6 address on the other hand looks like
e.g. 2001:0db8:3c4d:0015:0000:0000:abcd:ef12

If you a person who has a job in technical support, is there are easier way for you to communicate with your customers? Is there a method to remember those long string of codes?

edit:
Just checked my internet connection via command prompt: ipconfig /all
and notice I've got a IPV6 address. Wasn't there before or was it?

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 11:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Businesses will probably just create something like this



ISP<- Modem <-IPv6 Node <- IPv4 Nodes


So really they just have to turn the ipv4 into bridges and then tunnel the traffic through a ipv6 routers/switch.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 12:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have an IPV6 also. And after it, it shows <preferred>.
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