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noko_112
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 4:09 pm    Post subject: Google's power Reply with quote

Somehow i managed to get into a discussion with a person whom stands firm that Google does not have the power to control him, then i mentioned how they can break the worlds economy and get big chunks of your identity of just what you got in you mail.

what do you think? Does Google have to power to control?

personally i think they got to much power, but there aren't really any way from stopping them...
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well yeah but Oracle has even more control, Java is used in radios, cars, kitchen appliances, pretty much anything electronic, wheres Google is mainly internet based.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 4:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Well yeah but Oracle has even more control, Java is used in radios, cars, kitchen appliances, pretty much anything electronic, wheres Google is mainly internet based.

Popularity and control are not the same. Whatever changes Oracle were to make to Java it would have no effect on plenty of embedded systems which use that technology since they are effectively complete standalone systems.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 11:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Slugsnack wrote:
Cryoma wrote:
Well yeah but Oracle has even more control, Java is used in radios, cars, kitchen appliances, pretty much anything electronic, wheres Google is mainly internet based.

Popularity and control are not the same. Whatever changes Oracle were to make to Java it would have no effect on plenty of embedded systems which use that technology since they are effectively complete standalone systems.

If Oracle wanted to take over the world they could manufacture computers with built in microphones for all of their new products.
If you wanted to take it to a sci-fi level, they could make their products robots in disguise.
All google makes physically are TV's and Phones, that I know of.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 1:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oracle has very little reach in the hardware field. It has expanded with the recent acquisition of Sun but even then most of their hardware 'products' are not of the end-user level.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 1:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i vote Microsoft. we have seen that a large part of the computers in the us use a Microsoft product. they have proven they have more money buy buying yahoo. soon google is going o be next. then bill gates will have so much money that he then buy all the 3rd world countries and turn them into vacation spots. and in the end he will buy the us and sell it to china in trade for a house on the moon. were tiger woods and his centar-raptor girlfriends will eat his butt-nuggets until they turn into man-flies.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This doesn't just go for google, but for every large company, like oil companies, car manufacturers, China..
They all control a certain part or aspect of our everyday life, that anyone of them could screw the entire economy over.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 6:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the thing is about google, they pretty much know everything about us. when you use google, my guess is they build a personalized profile on you to optimize advertising profits and more accurate search results. oracle, if they wanted to, could just shut down pretty much every one of our computer based appliances from car's nav system, to phones, to computers.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I watched a video on Google in Marketing once, they keep search records for something like 6 years, and pic semi-related:
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Google wont do anything to you. You're one in tens of millions.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 10:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cryoma wrote:
Well yeah but Oracle has even more control, Java is used in radios, cars, kitchen appliances, pretty much anything electronic, wheres Google is mainly internet based.
That's not true at all. Java's just a language. And it would be impossible for them to somehow modify the language in a magical way for all Java-based anything to magically tune into a magical frequency that sends it commands to do things. And if somehow they did manage to fucking pull that off, they deserve to rule the world.


Google, however, could easily do absolutely anything they want. F3ar, it's not about them not actually doing anything to you, it's that they could. Obviously they'd have no intent to kill a random person. All advantages aside, the sheer amount of money Google can obtain if it needs to is enough to buy anything off of anyone in the world. Now, when you consider the amount of information and resources Google already has at its disposal, it becomes a lot easier.

By the way, we're one in billions.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 10:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

apple controls the world
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 6:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rozen wrote:
apple controls the world


look at the legions that he's already commanding.

today fanboys, tomorrow the world.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 7:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ArcaneKnite wrote:
Rozen wrote:
apple controls the world


look at the legions that he's already commanding.

today fanboys, tomorrow the world.

He's right you know. They are slowly getting to the point where they have as much as Microsoft, if not already.
But controlling the world is a bit much, there are legal entities protecting our rights.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 7:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

elpacco wrote:
Cryoma wrote:
Well yeah but Oracle has even more control, Java is used in radios, cars, kitchen appliances, pretty much anything electronic, wheres Google is mainly internet based.
That's not true at all. Java's just a language. And it would be impossible for them to somehow modify the language in a magical way for all Java-based anything to magically tune into a magical frequency that sends it commands to do things. And if somehow they did manage to fucking pull that off, they deserve to rule the world.


Google, however, could easily do absolutely anything they want. F3ar, it's not about them not actually doing anything to you, it's that they could. Obviously they'd have no intent to kill a random person. All advantages aside, the sheer amount of money Google can obtain if it needs to is enough to buy anything off of anyone in the world. Now, when you consider the amount of information and resources Google already has at its disposal, it becomes a lot easier.

By the way, we're one in billions.


So you're saying Google is above the law? The US government are more powerful
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