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I don't get the point in VPS.

 
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 2:49 pm    Post subject: I don't get the point in VPS. Reply with quote

Why would you pay shitloads a month to remotely use a partition of a server?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 2:50 pm    Post subject: Re: I don't get the point in VPS. Reply with quote

Cryoma wrote:
Why would you pay shitloads a month to remotely use a partition of a server?

You have to be kidding me.
>shitloads
wtf?
VPS go for like $7.00
Where dedis go for $100.00+ a month.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 2:52 pm    Post subject: Re: I don't get the point in VPS. Reply with quote

xen0r wrote:
Cryoma wrote:
Why would you pay shitloads a month to remotely use a partition of a server?

You have to be kidding me.
>shitloads
wtf?
VPS go for like $7.00
Where dedis go for $100.00+ a month.

Sorry yeah VPS is a partition, VDS is dedicated.
Why would you pay shitloads a month to remotely use someone else's computer?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 2:55 pm    Post subject: Re: I don't get the point in VPS. Reply with quote

Cryoma wrote:
xen0r wrote:
Cryoma wrote:
Why would you pay shitloads a month to remotely use a partition of a server?

You have to be kidding me.
>shitloads
wtf?
VPS go for like $7.00
Where dedis go for $100.00+ a month.

Sorry yeah VPS is a partition, VDS is dedicated.
Why would you pay shitloads a month to remotely use someone else's computer?

Shared hosting is remotely using "someone" elses computer and your sharing it with multiple people (even worse if it's oversold).
VPS's allow you to maximize your servers capacity by running multiple servers off one server. There are ofc a lot more reasons.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 3:06 pm    Post subject: Re: I don't get the point in VPS. Reply with quote

xen0r wrote:
Cryoma wrote:
xen0r wrote:
Cryoma wrote:
Why would you pay shitloads a month to remotely use a partition of a server?

You have to be kidding me.
>shitloads
wtf?
VPS go for like $7.00
Where dedis go for $100.00+ a month.

Sorry yeah VPS is a partition, VDS is dedicated.
Why would you pay shitloads a month to remotely use someone else's computer?

Shared hosting is remotely using "someone" elses computer and your sharing it with multiple people (even worse if it's oversold).
VPS's allow you to maximize your servers capacity by running multiple servers off one server. There are ofc a lot more reasons.

You don't seem to realise that VDS and VPS are different words for the same thing. You then randomly dragged in virtualisation and load balancing when they are completely irrelevant to the comparison of the two terms. Stop pulling shit out of your ass.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 3:14 pm    Post subject: Re: I don't get the point in VPS. Reply with quote

Slugsnack wrote:
xen0r wrote:
Cryoma wrote:
xen0r wrote:
Cryoma wrote:
Why would you pay shitloads a month to remotely use a partition of a server?

You have to be kidding me.
>shitloads
wtf?
VPS go for like $7.00
Where dedis go for $100.00+ a month.

Sorry yeah VPS is a partition, VDS is dedicated.
Why would you pay shitloads a month to remotely use someone else's computer?

Shared hosting is remotely using "someone" elses computer and your sharing it with multiple people (even worse if it's oversold).
VPS's allow you to maximize your servers capacity by running multiple servers off one server. There are ofc a lot more reasons.

You don't seem to realise that VDS and VPS are different words for the same thing. You then randomly dragged in virtualisation and load balancing when they are completely irrelevant to the comparison of the two terms. Stop pulling shit out of your ass.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have my own desktop computer here at home, why not just use it?
The electricity bill is $2 a month to leave a energy star certified desktop and monitor on 24/7, and internet is pretty much everywhere these days, so I don't see the point in renting a dedicated or virtual server at all.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cryoma wrote:
I have my own desktop computer here at home, why not just use it?
The electricity bill is $2 a month to leave a energy star certified desktop and monitor on 24/7, and internet is pretty much everywhere these days, so I don't see the point in renting a dedicated or virtual server at all.

Lack of load balancing, limited/slow bandwidth, slower IO devices (servers tend to have very fast IO latencies). Commercial servers also have specialised hardwares to ensure low failure rates or use hardware redundancy to prevent complete failure. The list pretty much goes on for a while..

At the end of the day, it depends completely what sort of project you want to do. However something running from your home desktop is unlikely to be able to scale up if your product/service ever becomes big.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Slugsnack wrote:
Cryoma wrote:
I have my own desktop computer here at home, why not just use it?
The electricity bill is $2 a month to leave a energy star certified desktop and monitor on 24/7, and internet is pretty much everywhere these days, so I don't see the point in renting a dedicated or virtual server at all.

Lack of load balancing, limited/slow bandwidth, slower IO devices (servers tend to have very fast IO latencies). Commercial servers also have specialised hardwares to ensure low failure rates or use hardware redundancy to prevent complete failure. The list pretty much goes on for a while..

At the end of the day, it depends completely what sort of project you want to do. However something running from your home desktop is unlikely to be able to scale up if your product/service ever becomes big.

Ok so yeah if I wanted to host a MMO for thousands of people to play I'd need a load balancing server with all the perks, but for anything simple like a minecraft server my desktop should be fine right?
8gb ddr3 AMD Phenom II x4 with xfinity internet from comcast (I get over 2MB/s up or down if the server is within 500 miles, so anywhere in the US should run smooth)
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 3:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cryoma wrote:
Slugsnack wrote:
Cryoma wrote:
I have my own desktop computer here at home, why not just use it?
The electricity bill is $2 a month to leave a energy star certified desktop and monitor on 24/7, and internet is pretty much everywhere these days, so I don't see the point in renting a dedicated or virtual server at all.

Lack of load balancing, limited/slow bandwidth, slower IO devices (servers tend to have very fast IO latencies). Commercial servers also have specialised hardwares to ensure low failure rates or use hardware redundancy to prevent complete failure. The list pretty much goes on for a while..

At the end of the day, it depends completely what sort of project you want to do. However something running from your home desktop is unlikely to be able to scale up if your product/service ever becomes big.

Ok so yeah if I wanted to host a MMO for thousands of people to play I'd need a load balancing server with all the perks, but for anything simple like a minecraft server my desktop should be fine right?
8gb ddr3 AMD Phenom II x4 with xfinity internet from comcast (I get over 2MB/s up or down if the server is within 500 miles, so anywhere in the US should run smooth)

Also DDoS protection is a nice feature of some servers. If someone gets pissed at you that is. Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

xen0r wrote:
Cryoma wrote:
Slugsnack wrote:
Cryoma wrote:
I have my own desktop computer here at home, why not just use it?
The electricity bill is $2 a month to leave a energy star certified desktop and monitor on 24/7, and internet is pretty much everywhere these days, so I don't see the point in renting a dedicated or virtual server at all.

Lack of load balancing, limited/slow bandwidth, slower IO devices (servers tend to have very fast IO latencies). Commercial servers also have specialised hardwares to ensure low failure rates or use hardware redundancy to prevent complete failure. The list pretty much goes on for a while..

At the end of the day, it depends completely what sort of project you want to do. However something running from your home desktop is unlikely to be able to scale up if your product/service ever becomes big.

Ok so yeah if I wanted to host a MMO for thousands of people to play I'd need a load balancing server with all the perks, but for anything simple like a minecraft server my desktop should be fine right?
8gb ddr3 AMD Phenom II x4 with xfinity internet from comcast (I get over 2MB/s up or down if the server is within 500 miles, so anywhere in the US should run smooth)

Also DDoS protection is a nice feature of some servers. If someone gets pissed at you that is. Wink

Not to worry, I got norton.
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