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Radeon 10.7 drivers released, and they are horrible.

 
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 8:33 pm    Post subject: Radeon 10.7 drivers released, and they are horrible. Reply with quote

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ATI Eyefinity - HydraVision enhancements
• Maximizing a window across displays will now take user defined bezel compensation into account
• Automatically adjusts window position when dragging and dropping windows to ensure title bar visibility
• Proper dialog box placement - dialogs do not cross displays, are not hidden behind bezels, and can be designated to be shown on the users preferred” display Enhanced Pull-down detection
• The Pull-down detection algorithm has been enhanced for higher visual quality on certain types of video content
• Supported on the ATI Radeon™ HD 5000 Series ATI CrossFireX™ technology – support for rotated displays
• This release of ATI Catalyst™ enables end users running supported ATI CrossFireX™ configurations to rotate their displays (single or ATI Eyefinity display configurations) and still enjoy the performance benefits of ATI CrossFireX™ technology ATI Radeon GPU acceleration of VLC 1.1.1 Media Player
• Enables GPU acceleration of h.264 video content when using the VLC 1.1.1 Media Player – delivering a better user experience by consuming less system resources
• Supported on the ATI Radeon™ HD 5000 and ATI Radeon™ HD 4000 Series of products
• Requires VLC version 1.1.1 and later

Performance Improvements
• Borderlands
• Performance increases 3-5% on ATI Radeon™ HD 5800 and ATI Radeon™ HD 5700 series single card and CrossFire™ configurations when anti-aliasing and anisotropic filtering is enabled
• Performance increases 3-8% on ATI Radeon™ HD 5970 single card and CrossFire™ configurations when anti-aliasing and anisotropic filtering is enabled
• Performance increases 2-6% on ATI Radeon™ HD 5600 and ATI Radeon™ HD 5500 series single card configurations when anti-aliasing and anisotropic filtering is enabled
• Performance increases 2-10% on ATI Radeon™ HD 4800 series single card and CrossFire™ configurations when anti-aliasing and anisotropic filtering is enabled

Resolved Issues for All Windows Operating Systems
• "Current Setting" indicator will now appear when "Windows desktop" option is selected in "Catalyst™ Control Center - Basic" for specific CV resolutions

Resolved Issues for the Windows 7 Operating System
• "Desktop Window Manager has stopped working" error no longer appears after driver installation on specific cards
• ATI Stream (CAL) test no longer exits with exception error under CrossFire™ configurations
• Screen no longer turns blank when flashlight is turned on in "The Chronicles of Riddick 2" with Screen Space Ambient Occlusion enabled
• Running Unigine Heaven 2.1 (OpenGL) with "Tessellation" enabled no longer causes system to fail
• Player no longer exits abruptly while changing basic quality settings in Catalyst™ Control Center
• Browser no longer fails after repeated system suspend/resume and video playback pauses while viewing YouTube content

Resolved Issues for the Windows Vista Operating System
• ATI Stream (CAL) test no longer exits with exception error under CrossFire™ configurations

Resolved Issues for the Windows XP Operating System
• "Age Of Empires: The Rise of Rome" no longer fails and display error message when the diplomacy button is clicked
• Flickering no longer observed when task switching between game and desktop with Alt+Tab in "Need for Speed: Shift" game


The best new feature is worse frame rates and random freezing in some games. So far borderlands frame rate sucked horribly and it kept freezing.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is and old saying, if it ain't broken why fix it?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

10.7 added support for HD video GPU decoding, and VLC 1.1.1 is first to support it. I've noticed no difference in performance in the games I play (TF2, CS:S, Singularity, UT2K4, Sims 3)

http://www.legitreviews.com/news/8469/
http://www.legitreviews.com/news/8599/
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 10:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kls85 wrote:
There is and old saying, if it ain't broken why fix it?
Well I wanted that vlc decoding, and it says borderlands performance increase so I'm like YAY, but it made that worse and it freezes randomly so eff it.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 11:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Getting GPU decoding to work depends on the format of your video clip.
Well on my HP mini 311 netbook running a .mkv video clip,
using VLC 1.1.1- cpu usage is around 60% and the clip shutters, gets artifacts, or freezes. Rolling Eyes

Playing the same clip using MPC HC (Media Player Classic-Home Cinema), cpu usage is around 13%

I haven't tried it out on my desktop so I'll do that to see if the driver and vlc lives up to its claims.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kls85 wrote:
Getting GPU decoding to work depends on the format of your video clip.
Well on my HP mini 311 netbook running a .mkv video clip,
using VLC 1.1.1- cpu usage is around 60% and the clip shutters, gets artifacts, or freezes. :roll:

Playing the same clip using MPC HC (Media Player Classic-Home Cinema), cpu usage is around 13%

I haven't tried it out on my desktop so I'll do that to see if the driver and vlc lives up to its claims.
WHAT? Vlc doesn't use any cpu on my pc doing 720p movies. I got rid of mpc because it didn't show subs for some anime. VLC artifacts? Only for a second while skipping along. Freezing? Never. What kind of shit pc do you have? Anyway the new vlc 1.1.1 is specially made to get hardware decoding when used with 10.7 drivers.

The only thing is they fucked up borderlands.


Sure is a lot of cpu usage in here. I guess if you do not have a real gfx card and its using the cpu like an intel integration.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 11:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

that kinda looks like horse shit, is that even a hd video?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 11:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

slovach wrote:
that kinda looks like horse shit, is that even a hd video?
Not sure really.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 11:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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WHAT? Vlc doesn't use any cpu on my pc doing 720p movies. I got rid of mpc because it didn't show subs for some anime. VLC artifacts? Only for a second while skipping along. Freezing? Never. What kind of shit pc do you have? Anyway the new vlc 1.1.1 is specially made to get hardware decoding when used with 10.7 drivers.

The only thing is they fucked up borderlands.


Sure is a lot of cpu usage in here. I guess if you do not have a real gfx card and its using the cpu like an intel integration.


The first test was done on my netbook which has a Nvidia ION based platform that houses a GeForce 9400m graphics. The graphic card supports Nvidia's PureVideo HD- offloads the work to the gpu while playing HD contents. This feature is already present way before vlc 1.1.1. has ever existed.

Doing the same test on my desktop, with the latest 10.7 drivers, the newest version of VLC still has higher cpu usage than MPC.

VLC


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And you used a non-HD clip to prove a point?

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 11:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bumped

This first test was not accurate as GPU acceleration is disabled by default in VLC. You will need to manually enabled it.

This time, I've updated VLC from version 1.1.1 to 1.1.2
Ran a 1080P clip and the results are

with GPU acceleration disabled, CPU usage is around 15%
with GPU acceleration enabled, CPU usage is around 3%

I've notice with 1080i clip, there are choppy blocks as if the frame from previous scene does not fade fast enough, resulting in mixed scenes.
This happens during normal playback and performing fast forward/rewind

1080P and 720P videos do not have this problem.

Sorry for the double post.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 12:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The 2 pics look the same to me. Anyway, vlc runs better for me without the gpu acceleration. Honestly, my cpu is good enough to burn some power while watching a video.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 12:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hero wrote:
The 2 pics look the same to me. Anyway, vlc runs better for me without the gpu acceleration. Honestly, my cpu is good enough to burn some power while watching a video.



Yes those pictures are the same, one is taken with VLC 1.1.1 and the other is with MPCHC (Media Player Classic Home Cinema)

Both are taken at the near the same time of 52:03

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 12:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kls85 wrote:
Hero wrote:
The 2 pics look the same to me. Anyway, vlc runs better for me without the gpu acceleration. Honestly, my cpu is good enough to burn some power while watching a video.



Yes those pictures are the same, one is taken with VLC 1.1.1 and the other is with MPCHC (Media Player Classic Home Cinema)

Both are taken at the near the same time of 52:03
I ment quality wise. I never have that blocky problem with vlc. If I do it goes away pretty fast.
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