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Evil_Intentions
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Well, i have most of the basics down. Strong understanding of basic data types, creation of functions. Basic knowledge of Arrays. And im starting to understand pointers, but i dont feel like taking up another night reading over a chapter in my book about pointers.
So what should i do tonight?
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If you want to hack games, pointers.
If you want to make software, classes.
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| Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 9:10 pm Post subject: |
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| Flyte wrote: | If you want to hack games, pointers.
If you want to make software, classes. |
i plan on going to college for software engineering..so classes it is.
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| Hacking games can give you a deep insight on how a processes memory works and all, considering you go 'deep' into hacking, which then is benefitional is understand how an application works which can help you in college.
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Yea...ive been kinda wanting to learn mem editing, so i can make my own SADX tool.
Im not that great at making c++ GUIs tho... actually, i havn't a clue of how to do them. But i do know basic memory scanning and writing.
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Majority of college courses will use Java in a programming field rather then another language. (Unless you goto a .NET collect specifically for Microsoft related courses etc.) If you plan to take programming seriously and get into college I would suggest not touching game hacking at all since majority of what you will be doing in college will have nothing to do with it.
The main focus in colleges is typically:
- Basic overview of the language at first.
- Data types and program flow.
- Output to a console.
- Operations and functional design.
- Basic GUI design and interaction.
- Classes and objects.
- Data storage containers.
This is based on a course a friend of mine just took and asked for my help with frequently. A standard computer science course no less. All of which used Java.
Not to say none of that could be useful in game hacking, but your professor isn't going to say "Bust out Olly and make a trainer" for your class project.
You still have a lot to learn with C/C++ just the basic data types alone are just a tiny percent of the whole language. If you are looking into digging deeper with C++ specifically I would suggest looking into:
- Win32 API
- Using external libraries (static and dynamic).
- Using the STL and it's various features.
- Structures, Classes, Interfaces, etc.
- Macros, inline functions, pragma definitions
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| iPromise wrote: | | Hacking games can give you a deep insight on how a processes memory works and all, considering you go 'deep' into hacking, which then is benefitional is understand how an application works which can help you in college. |
no, no it doesn't. it'll help him very little, insignificantly. game hacking forces you to concentrate for the most part on a very small area of programming. wiccaan's advice is good although it is rare that a university would teach just 1 language throughout the entire course. i agree on many of the points but to reiterate about learning the basics of guis, i think you should really leave it at that. learn the event based or message passing paradigm and leave it there instead of getting totally absorbed by making a sleek gui and not focusing on more important things.
depending on how confident you are with procedural/imperative programming i would consider moving to oop and learning classes, interfaces and polymorphism. if you are moving from c to c++, do not do so until you have a very strong base in c. it will help you in the long run.
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| Slugsnack wrote: | | iPromise wrote: | | Hacking games can give you a deep insight on how a processes memory works and all, considering you go 'deep' into hacking, which then is benefitional is understand how an application works which can help you in college. |
no, no it doesn't. it'll help him very little, insignificantly. game hacking forces you to concentrate for the most part on a very small area of programming. wiccaan's advice is good although it is rare that a university would teach just 1 language throughout the entire course. i agree on many of the points but to reiterate about learning the basics of guis, i think you should really leave it at that. learn the event based or message passing paradigm and leave it there instead of getting totally absorbed by making a sleek gui and not focusing on more important things.
depending on how confident you are with procedural/imperative programming i would consider moving to oop and learning classes, interfaces and polymorphism. if you are moving from c to c++, do not do so until you have a very strong base in c. it will help you in the long run. |
Didn't mean it as the full course for things. Typically the starting courses for any computer science class that involves programming with Java. Some branch into C/C++ but not many. The heavily used language in colleges is Java though. As said, there are other colleges that have specific languages in mind rather then Java, such as C# for Microsoft specific courses.
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college im going to is straight c++. Thanks for all the info. 
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