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Fraternity
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 2:20 pm    Post subject: [Help] Pointer Tutorials Reply with quote

Okay I want to be able to find pointers for games, and I have read every single topic on this forum that is related to pointers. I know i'm not doing anything wrong but for some reason I can't ever find the static adress in a true game. I mean from the tutorials it's piece of cake, even the tutorial that came with cheat engine was not hard.

But I always have trouble finding pointers in games, for example I was messing with gold in Dragon Age Origins, I can't find the static adress for the gold value, I keep searching for the pointer but after a while when I choose "Find out what writes/accesses this adress" nothing displays, no adresses come up for me to move on. So I'm asking for help with pointers, what is the best method to finding a pointer? Is there a method that can guarantee success in every game? Thanks for your help in advance Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 10:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well what a community we have here lol no one answers anything but it's okay I got it by spending couple hours on the internet, thanks anyways everyone Razz
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You already said you read everything on the forum related to pointers, which means there's nothing new to reply with.

I would have said to try the pointerscan or code injection or even look at the released tables of dragon age, but those topics are already described over and over

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fraternity wrote:
Well what a community we have here lol no one answers anything but it's okay I got it by spending couple hours on the internet, thanks anyways everyone Razz


just give us a little bit more time... we're humans too, you know Smile

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dark Byte I get what your saying but the tutorials are too simple you know, they don't happen in real games. Usually it's hard in games or something really complicated happens that don't in tutorials. and I tried pointer scanner which works wonderful for about 20 times closing and opening the game but sometimes it'll give ??? which sucks but can you explain me if I do manual search sometimes when I search for the next adress like for example lets say it says the next value is probably 4E52F028, I put that in and search it in hex but nothing comes up why does that happen?
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 2:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why bother doing that again? I assume if you're using CE on dragon age you're using the PC version, which never had the developer debugging console taken out...

http://dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Console

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 4:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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if I do manual search sometimes when I search for the next address like for example lets say it says the next value is probably 4E52F028, I put that in and search it in hex but nothing comes up why does that happen?

That means that the register got an calculation on it, e.g +28 or a LEA instruction

You should look at the disassembler code and scroll up a bit, perhaps you'd see how the calculation is done and go from there

or alternatively try to guess what the value would be if it was stored in memory. I'd have guessed 4E52F000 myself


also, the pointer for attributes and health in dragon age is a level 6 pointer (at least)
The default settings in pointerscan is set to 5, so wouldn't find one that's valid 100% of the time if you used the default

And of course, if all else fails, try code injection (optionally improved with pointers)
e.g: Find out what reads your health (e.g the code that displays the health bars accesses your health) Then place a code injection there and store the address or pointer used
Or even just quickly write the max health value there

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 9:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Uzeil, I understand that but I'm just trying to get better at hacking and I'd rather not take the easy way out. It's a learning experience Razz

Dark Byte, I see what your saying i'll try doing different things and I didn't know the pointers had that many levels, I'll keep trying thanks
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