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Do we really need guns?
Yes
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Yes, but only in dangerous areas of the world
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No
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I think there should be a complete firearm ban
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 5:08 am    Post subject: Morales of gun ownership. Reply with quote

So today, I was on a boat with some friends. We were cruising back from an island in the Pacific Ocean. There were some other people who were with us on another boat. Theirs was slower, so they left first. When we caught up on the way back, the skipper of the boat I was on shot 3 shots into the water behind the other boat. The gun was a 9mm. All the grown ups were pretty drunk lol...

Anyway, so this raised a question: Do you think gun ownership is an ethical choice? In PNG, you may need one as crime is high, but in a developed country with a good justice system, do you really need one? The skipper of the boat's gun was unlicensed, therefore legally immoral, but should he be trusted with a gun? What if he had of killed someone? Why do we need guns anyway?

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 5:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well the only reason I see for morally owning a gun is for protection, but if other people also don't have guns you don't really need it. I live in the UK so I don't really have any experience with guns but personally I feel that only people such as police who have had full training should have them (Mostly as a deterrent).
And i'm guessing that you mean the public and not the military for example.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 5:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, the public in general. Though the military and police would have no need for guns if the public didn't have them.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 5:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yes, the public in general. Though the military and police would have no need for guns if the public didn't have them.
Well even if there was a world wide ban there would still be a lot around. Unless you mean it in a hypothetical situation where it was possible to get rid of them all then yeah, there is no real point of them. And in any case I don't think the public should own guns.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 5:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Zelda_454 wrote:
Yes, the public in general. Though the military and police would have no need for guns if the public didn't have them.
Well even if there was a world wide ban there would still be a lot around. Unless you mean it in a hypothetical situation where it was possible to get rid of them all then yeah, there is no real point of them. And in any case I don't think the public should own guns.


OK, fair enough. I think that guns should be controlled more tightly...

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 8:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Average citizens don't need guns. There is no need if the police are doing their job (obviously the ones with the guns).
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 2:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zelda_454 wrote:
Dialgar wrote:
Zelda_454 wrote:
Yes, the public in general. Though the military and police would have no need for guns if the public didn't have them.
Well even if there was a world wide ban there would still be a lot around. Unless you mean it in a hypothetical situation where it was possible to get rid of them all then yeah, there is no real point of them. And in any case I don't think the public should own guns.


OK, fair enough. I think that guns should be controlled more tightly...
U know guns are banned in Mexico but that doesn't seem to stop the Mexican Mafia
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Parable of the Sheep (ESR) might be an amusing read.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The Parable of the Sheep (ESR) might be an amusing read.


Haha, that story was actually really good <3.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 4:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i can easily kill you with a kitchen knife, guns just makes it a little bit easier.
guns don't kill people; people do.
banning guns will just give the market to the criminals
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 5:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

iwannaflyoneday wrote:
i can easily kill you with a kitchen knife, guns just makes it a little bit easier.
guns don't kill people; people do.
banning guns will just give the market to the criminals


Oh, so that is ok then? They only make murder easier so it's no big deal.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 6:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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i can easily kill you with a kitchen knife


Ban kitchen knives then.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 2:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dialgar wrote:
iwannaflyoneday wrote:
i can easily kill you with a kitchen knife, guns just makes it a little bit easier.
guns don't kill people; people do.
banning guns will just give the market to the criminals


Oh, so that is ok then? They only make murder easier so it's no big deal.
i can kill you with my hands, a kitchen knife makes it easier. at what point do you draw the line?
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 3:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am getting a gun soon, or well first a license. They are needed, I mean theres so much shit around the world, and I guess it depends on where you live. I'd feel better knowing that I can prevent anyone from trying anything with the ones I love.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jokser wrote:
I am getting a gun soon, or well first a license. They are needed, I mean theres so much shit around the world, and I guess it depends on where you live. I'd feel better knowing that I can prevent anyone from trying anything with the ones I love.


You know having a gun can actually increase the chance of violence right?
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