Cheat Engine

levis · Newbie cheater Reputation: 0 Joined: 30 Nov 2005 Posts: 24

how would each and every setting affect the use of CE?
i wanna toggle 2 different breakpoints, or rather change registers at 2 different locations.. so i played around with the settings unknowingly..

i tried on different computers, and somehow different results show
computer 1:
this computer has the default extra settings... when i change registers at one location, CE will prompt "this will attach the debugger".. i go to another register and change register.. it works

computer 2:
this computer cannot run on the default settings.. once i change any one register, my game freezes.. so i have to use the kernelmode debugger.. but using the kernelmode debugger somehow only allows me to change ONE register at a time.. (or rather, changing it at a 2nd location gives no effect)

Dark Byte · Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 8:35 am Post subject:

let me gues, maple?

use hardware breakpoints for breakpoints instead of int3. It won't write a int3 instruction when breaking.

levis, if you where using the beta of ce 5.2 before I recommend reformatting your computer. Or search through the register and remove all mentioning of cedriver52 as passible, and reboot.
then uninstall ce.
reinstall ce
and then it should work
I get tired of people that used the buggy 5.2 beta I gave to a few people and now can't get it to work anymore

you can set more than 1 breakpoint with the kernelmode debugger , the beta driver just couldn't and you still have that loaded

stomperz · Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 2:27 pm Post subject:

levis · Newbie cheater Reputation: 0 Joined: 30 Nov 2005 Posts: 24

wierd.. i dont remember having installed the 5.2 beta on my computer that doesnt work for this case... instead, the computer that i can run all my "registers changing" on, has been installed with the beta before..

ok here goes.. say i have this code 00112233 - jne 123456.. i wanna change the register to zero flag... i've tested this on my computer (which has been beta-ed before) and it works. now i go to my friend's comp (no beta-ed), and i try it and CE just freezes. now i go to a 3rd comp (no beta-ed), and try it and it works... somehow.. lol

getting very confused with this... btw which do u suggest i use? kernelmode or the default windows debugger?

levis · Newbie cheater Reputation: 0 Joined: 30 Nov 2005 Posts: 24

somehow i use default settings ie: open process only...
tried on 2 diff comps again... one works, while the other hangs midway... issit becos of amd vs intel?

Dark Byte · Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 9:38 am Post subject:

if the default debugger works uses that, it's more compatible/stable

There are some differences between intel and amd, but I had some people with amd's test it and they had no problem.

One other thing that might/will mess stuff up is running protectionsoftware like blackice, processguard ,norton etc...

levis · Newbie cheater Reputation: 0 Joined: 30 Nov 2005 Posts: 24

well sorry to bump up an old post.. hey guys, i just did a format on my comp, so that'd should have cleared all registry values of 5.2 beta... however, it seems that i have a different problem now...

before format:
my settings was just "open process" and all works well.. the default debugger and all... (and yes i installed 5.2beta once)

now after format:
if i use just "open process" my game crashes after awhile.. so i suppose the default debugger is messing things up.. and if i use kernelmode, many things cant be done...

i dont suppose it has anything to do with hardware (ie Amd vs Intel) i suppose its the software environment? any advice?

Dark Byte · Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 8:04 pm Post subject:

do you open the process by clicking ok or by clicking on attach debugger ? (the ok one is prefered)

if it is a game with protection go to settings and disable "use hyperscan when possible" the probe itself can mess up protections

levis · Newbie cheater Reputation: 0 Joined: 30 Nov 2005 Posts: 24

i click the "ok" only.. i tried ur modified dbk32.sys which u uploaded in another thread... and even with that, i use kernelmode debugger, the game still crashes in awhile

my settings was just "use kernelmode debugger options whenever possible"

Dark Byte · Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 8:34 pm Post subject:

I guess the game just doesn't like being debugged then... (e.g starforce games)

levis · Newbie cheater Reputation: 0 Joined: 30 Nov 2005 Posts: 24

erm.. i dun think so.. a friend of mine has the exact same settings as mine.. his worked.. lol.. so this is confusing me alot

Dark Byte · Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2005 8:06 am Post subject:

Got any special software running like norton, blackice, processguard, jamilah, or other rootkit ?

levis · Newbie cheater Reputation: 0 Joined: 30 Nov 2005 Posts: 24

special programs? no blackice.. no processguard..
i have norton antivirus and norton ghost on my system tray though.. does it count?

Dark Byte · Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2005 7:08 pm Post subject:

I heard from some people that norton interferes. But usually when used with other protection software.

But I really think it is your settings. Download cheat engine , install it, then uninstall it, and reboot. Then reinstall it and all your settings will be reset to default.
(or delete hkey_current_users\software\cheat engine) and reboot

Also, what are the results when you run the kerneldataretriever?

levis · Newbie cheater Reputation: 0 Joined: 30 Nov 2005 Posts: 24

it says the debugoffset isnt found but i'm using XP so it should be 188.. so and i click ok... and these was it:

NTUserBuildHwndListCallNumber 312
NTUserQueryWindowCallNumber 483
NTUserFindWindowExCallNumber 378
NTUserGetForegroundWindowCallNumber 404
activelinkOffset 136
processnameOffset 372
debugportOffset 188