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I'm trying for several days now to find the x,y,z position of a game. First searches found a static address, however i can not write to it (freeze doesn't work too if someone will ask that). After some other basic searches i found a pointer that can be written to. I say it is a pointer because it is listed as a gray address and its address changes at every runtime but always after that 70000... address.

Trying to check what writes at that pointer i got another address as the same as the first(after 7000...) with an offset.

After 5 levels or so where the same thing was repeating, at the point where i could select from the left any gray address, some were pointing differently, etc, i'm almost sure im doing something wrong.

Here are exact steps:
1. Found at 74C53864 the value i'm looking for
2. Find out what writes at this location and found several lines like:

[Psy]

Themida. That limits it somewhat. I only know of one decent SP-game using a commercial software protector, and that is mount & blade, and that is indeed Themida/Winlicense.

The alternative is that it's an MP game client. They tend to be bug on protectors (typically ASProtect, Themida etc). If it's the latter, you'll get no help from me, and probably no-one else. Ever wonder why the MP sections no longer exist in this forum?

In addition to this 'moral stand', there's another issue with an MP game. You probably found the right value, but as the variable is (most likely) handled serverside you will NOT be able to manipulate it. Sorry.

If it's none of that ^, and it's SP, then try a couple of other things. If you searched increase/north, then search decreased/north (IE. reverse the search process). Or try and get the Z/height coord, as this tends to be easier. Try searching 2-byte rather than 4-byte or FLOAT as well, as some games (Burnout Paradise comes to mind) store the position in a non-standard way.

Also, go easy on the unchanged filter searches, as sometimes the coords can slightly alter even when stood still in-game, and this can filter out your real addresses. Good luck anyways if it's SP. If not, bye

~Psy



*EDIT*

Just read your short note. AION, so MP. No more replies from me then on this. Suffice-to-say that just because freezing appears to work, doesn't mean it actually does. Sure there'll be a flicker/slight-delay in the update but this isn't a freeze. Try actually inputting new locations. You'll see you don't go anywhere worth a damn. Also, as AION is created by NCSoft just as Guild Wars is, I doubt you'll be able to do anything at all work while. Look into a making a bot instead bud.

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[Psy]

I would search for the Z one to start with. 99% of times as you gain height the memory address increases, so find that, find the others next to it.

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Ok, i'm lost now.

So i'm searching for a value. I found it, there's no doubt about it.
I found a static address of where the value is stored in the module i guessed was but it was read-only.
I also found a pointer wich probably is addressed by a few other pointers to that value (or themida just masks the path of pointers through it) wich i can modify.

So what i'm looking now is pointers, not the values.

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