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Cheat engine scanning is Slow, Darkbyte what do you recomend

 
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 8:10 pm    Post subject: Cheat engine scanning is Slow, Darkbyte what do you recomend Reply with quote

I'm going to buy or build my own custom computer just for ce. The game I play is very important to me, I have 30 hacks on it already, and want to make many many more. The problem is all of my ideas cannot be implemented because scanning just for 'unknown initial value' takes 11-13 minutes. And I test alot before I hit a goldmine.

So what are the OPTIMAL requirements to make CE work Ninja fast if you could build your own PC darkbyte? I'm not uber rich so I dont need state of the art gaming cards (the game i play is simple but huge in memory). The pc im on right now is a dinosaur dont even talk about 'upgrading' it, would be easier to make a new one.

It would be soooo nice if CE instant-scanned all the time. Omg.

If your pc can scan for unknown initial value in a huge clientside-memory game then please tell me how you do it aswell!

Thanks for the help in this brainstorm

PS sorry for loving your program too much.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 5:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

fast cpu
fast harddisk
and memoryrunning at least at normal speed (at least 4GB)

Unknown initial value scan is mostly dependent on the amount of ram you have and on your harddisk write speed


also, you can try messing around with the scanbuffer in settings.
If your cpu or harddisk doesn't have a lot of cache, try a smaller size. E.g: 8kb tends to be good for some older systems

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 6:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Setting it to 8kb worked dreams for me, and dont have it on "time critical" since it tends to hang (On bigger list's)
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dark Byte wrote:
also, you can try messing around with the scanbuffer in settings.
If your cpu or harddisk doesn't have a lot of cache, try a smaller size. E.g: 8kb tends to be good for some older systems

I've been wondering about this.
So, for slower PCs the scan buffer should be decreased and for fast PCs is should be decreased?
From the word 'buffer' one might think that a bigger one helps speed things up.
Does it have anything to do with the allocation size on the disk?
What are the sweet spots?
8K is for 1.6GHz?
I've always used the default value and it was ok on my Core2Duo 3GHz.
Thank you for any insight on this value.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not sure myself, I think it's got to do with the cache of the cpu, so a 8 kb cache buffer stays changed inside the cpu after a small read while a big read would have the cpu miss a lot of cache hits

Also I notice that scanbuffer is mostly affecting the results when a lot of results are being written to disk. So could be the diskcontroller and/or disk handles small chunks of consequently writes better than a huge chunk every now and then.
On my comp I don't notice much difference in speed if I use a small or big buffer when there's not many results. (e.g a 4 byte scan for a value bigger than 1000)

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 12:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dark Byte, is there a chart or graph comparing the CPU speed to the cache buffer? or not even the CPU speed, but anything else? thanks a heaps.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get a faster computer.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

how can i see what scanbuffer is best for my system? what is it dependent on?
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