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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 1:07 am    Post subject: Emulator Question Reply with quote

Is there a possible way for cheat engine to target games that require an emulator to run such as gba, dosbox, etc?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 1:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ya, you just attach CE to the emulator. i do it with a GBAE.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

strange every time i try that i wont get any address from it i gues i am juz searching the emulator not the rom
and for gb is under wut search option?

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

when I found lives/ammo for the playstating emulator i just targeted the emulator as well, it should all be in the same proccess, the emulator and game, ce will search anything attached to the emulator like roms would be,

try using different search types, and maybe unknown initial value type searches as well, keep it simple though and work up the searches,
so try byte/2 byte /4 byte default for 32 bit windows/ float for possible decimal values/ double float for 8 byte decimal values,

well your emulator will probably use byte or 2 bytes,
there are lots of types of searches, increased,decreased , unkown initial value, last resort.. changed / unchanged value,

For lives I found that an old 8 bit game used 3 bytes clocking over using a value to turn on or off but not the 1/0 method just other values to do the same thing,
gillingans gold it was called, a right crappy old 1980's game but just goes to show even crappy old games have tricks to make you work to solve them,

oh gillligans gold was on a spectrum emulator by the way ,,

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 9:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

.rotalume eht eb dluohs ti tub spahrep exe.emag dellac si ssecorp eht tahw llet ot elba eb dluohs uoy rotalume ruoy sti fi dna lamron ekil daol dluohs ti etyb 1 esu elpoep tsom tub setyb 4 esu i mor eht daol tsuj dluow uoy yllamron gnisu ruoy rotalume tahw sdneped ti llew
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 12:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

AnthraX1 wrote:
.rotalume eht eb dluohs ti tub spahrep exe.emag dellac si ssecorp eht tahw llet ot elba eb dluohs uoy rotalume ruoy sti fi dna lamron ekil daol dluohs ti etyb 1 esu elpoep tsom tub setyb 4 esu i mor eht daol tsuj dluow uoy yllamron gnisu ruoy rotalume tahw sdneped ti llew


... Wow. I'm not going to try to read that.


For a GB emulator, i search for bytes, 2 and 4. Game boys dont have 8, or floats. but PS2/DS/Psp/etc could be diffrent.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 12:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sithboy1138 wrote:
AnthraX1 wrote:
.rotalume eht eb dluohs ti tub spahrep exe.emag dellac si ssecorp eht tahw llet ot elba eb dluohs uoy rotalume ruoy sti fi dna lamron ekil daol dluohs ti etyb 1 esu elpoep tsom tub setyb 4 esu i mor eht daol tsuj dluow uoy yllamron gnisu ruoy rotalume tahw sdneped ti llew


... Wow. I'm not going to try to read that.


For a GB emulator, i search for bytes, 2 and 4. Game boys dont have 8, or floats. but PS2/DS/Psp/etc could be diffrent.


yes thats right thats what i said try byte and 2 byte,
just pointing out the floats and doubles for when he tries other games like flash or some fps games use float, and other tricks.... as well,
another old 8 bit game called jet set willy 2 used shift left with carry for the 7 lives for instance. or was it shift right ?? anyway when the empty bit shifted into the carry flag register it was game over,

so just pointing out the one or ideas for searches, there's always a clever programmer coming up with some bright idea to catch out us cheaters,

by the way have they got a decent ps2/xbox emulator yet, looked at a few a while back but they were not up to playing games on at tthe time

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 12:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

some emulators need a bios (i think that's what it's called) to decrypt the game. that's the biggest problem with PS2 (i'm not sure about xbox) emulators. other then the bios being needed there are some fine emulators out.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 2:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

1 byte exact value scans work the best on emulator games, since no matter how the bytes are ordered, it's only 1 byte
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 6:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

is it also possible that gameshark codes are like addresses for the certain game?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

actually go to binary and add this
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h a h a   y o u r   g a y
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 11:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Meaning?
Reason?
How?

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