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Well basically here's my build that I made, I was wondering if there was anything I can improve or swap out like a better GPU. Thanks
Antec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
GIGABYTE GA-EP45-UD3P LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
SAPPHIRE 100225DDR3L Radeon HD 3870 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail
CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply - Retail
Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 Yorkfield 2.83GHz LGA 775 95W Quad-Core Processor Model BX80569Q9550 - Retail
CORSAIR 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model TWIN2X4096-6400C5 - Retail
Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD5000AAKS 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
LG 22X DVD±R DVD Burner Black IDE Model GH22NP20 - OEM
APEVIA KI-COMBO-SV Black/Silver PS/2 Wired Standard Keyboard and Optical Scroll Mouse Combo Set - Retail
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Get a ATI 4870
Go with the Q6600 easily be able to overclock
and otherwise looks good 
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q9550 is better then the q6600.
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| Konata Izumi wrote: | | q9550 is better then the q6600. |
Sure as shit not going to be better when the Q6600 is several hundred MHZ ahead of it after a session of savage overclocking.
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| slovach wrote: | | Konata Izumi wrote: | | q9550 is better then the q6600. |
Sure as shit not going to be better when the Q6600 is several hundred MHZ ahead of it after a session of savage overclocking. |
then you overclock the q9550 to 3.8 and get 15 more fps.
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@slovach, Konata Izumi:
What does it matter, anyway? Most games can't take advantage of quad cores, and many wouldn't need to. If you're going to do extreme overclocking, why not use an E8400/E8600 and get full use of your overclock? Quad-core is overrated right now, unless you're into x264 encoding or are a whore for benchmarks.
My point is, there aren't enough quad-core based games like Crysis to warrant a quad-core processor for only that reason. A C2D E8400 can almost keep up with the Q9770 in this benchmark, so let's not put unnecessary spins on the situation.
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| Konata Izumi wrote: | | slovach wrote: | | Konata Izumi wrote: | | q9550 is better then the q6600. |
Sure as shit not going to be better when the Q6600 is several hundred MHZ ahead of it after a session of savage overclocking. |
then you overclock the q9550 to 3.8 and get 15 more fps. |
better have a rly good cooling system or sum thing going to burn.
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| Karakawe wrote: | @slovach, Konata Izumi:
What does it matter, anyway? Most games can't take advantage of quad cores, and many wouldn't need to. If you're going to do extreme overclocking, why not use an E8400/E8600 and get full use of your overclock? Quad-core is overrated right now, unless you're into x264 encoding or are a whore for benchmarks.
My point is, there aren't enough quad-core based games like Crysis to warrant a quad-core processor for only that reason. A C2D E8400 can almost keep up with the Q9770 in this benchmark, so let's not put unnecessary spins on the situation. |
future wise, the e8400 will get outdated while more and more games start taking advantage of the extra cores.
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| jst700 wrote: | | Karakawe wrote: | @slovach, Konata Izumi:
What does it matter, anyway? Most games can't take advantage of quad cores, and many wouldn't need to. If you're going to do extreme overclocking, why not use an E8400/E8600 and get full use of your overclock? Quad-core is overrated right now, unless you're into x264 encoding or are a whore for benchmarks.
My point is, there aren't enough quad-core based games like Crysis to warrant a quad-core processor for only that reason. A C2D E8400 can almost keep up with the Q9770 in this benchmark, so let's not put unnecessary spins on the situation. |
future wise, the e8400 will get outdated while more and more games start taking advantage of the extra cores. |
True, but that won't happen for some time. It's not as if all new games now make use of quad-core. If it does happen before long, socket 775 can be upgraded of course, but you'll be able to save a couple hundred now by using a C2D.
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| Karakawe wrote: | @slovach, Konata Izumi:
What does it matter, anyway? Most games can't take advantage of quad cores, and many wouldn't need to. If you're going to do extreme overclocking, why not use an E8400/E8600 and get full use of your overclock? Quad-core is overrated right now, unless you're into x264 encoding or are a whore for benchmarks.
My point is, there aren't enough quad-core based games like Crysis to warrant a quad-core processor for only that reason. A C2D E8400 can almost keep up with the Q9770 in this benchmark, so let's not put unnecessary spins on the situation. |
So you'd rather not proof at all for the future, when every upcoming game will likely have proper support? Even if it doesn't, ever think you can MULTITASK? Encoding, virus scanning, whatever, while gaming with your free cores, IMAGINE THAT.
| Konata Izumi wrote: | | slovach wrote: | | Konata Izumi wrote: | | q9550 is better then the q6600. |
Sure as shit not going to be better when the Q6600 is several hundred MHZ ahead of it after a session of savage overclocking. |
then you overclock the q9550 to 3.8 and get 15 more fps. |
You miss the point that it's much harder to overclock the 45nm chips because of their higher FSB. Not to mention the clock for clock difference is within single digit difference percentage wise. 
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| slovach wrote: | | Karakawe wrote: | @slovach, Konata Izumi:
What does it matter, anyway? Most games can't take advantage of quad cores, and many wouldn't need to. If you're going to do extreme overclocking, why not use an E8400/E8600 and get full use of your overclock? Quad-core is overrated right now, unless you're into x264 encoding or are a whore for benchmarks.
My point is, there aren't enough quad-core based games like Crysis to warrant a quad-core processor for only that reason. A C2D E8400 can almost keep up with the Q9770 in this benchmark, so let's not put unnecessary spins on the situation. |
So you'd rather not proof at all for the future, when every upcoming game will likely have proper support? Even if it doesn't, ever think you can MULTITASK? Encoding, virus scanning, whatever, while gaming with your free cores, IMAGINE THAT. |
You are right about the new resource-intensive games, but it really depends on what OP is planning to do. I can run most games fine at full detail with an [email protected] (that's with stock voltage). Overclocking helps further.
There's also the business of wattage efficiency. While some people might not care, will not the dual core will be more productive for the energy it requires.
Want OP to be prepared for the future? Tell him to get an i7.
Now drop the fucking sarcasm.
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Missed what he wrote for GPU. Why are we all caught up on the quality of his CPU if he's going to use a 3870? Stay close to the original budget, get a C2D E8400, and upgrade the 3870 for a 4850.
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65W divided among 2 physical cores isn't as "efficient" as 95W divided among 4 physical cores. Those are the TDPs though, so the power used by the processors are usually far lower during non-intensive use.
About the build: Look into an HD 4850/HD 4870. You could easily go with a power supply with a lower wattage, maybe the Corsair 620W PSU? Other than that, it's a pretty good build, and you'll probably want to overclock it, so get some aftermarket cooling.
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| superweapons wrote: | 65W divided among 2 physical cores isn't as "efficient" as 95W divided among 4 physical cores. Those are the TDPs though, so the power used by the processors are usually far lower during non-intensive use.
About the build: Look into an HD 4850/HD 4870. You could easily go with a power supply with a lower wattage, maybe the Corsair 620W PSU? Other than that, it's a pretty good build, and you'll probably want to overclock it, so get some aftermarket cooling. |
Have you seen any tests like this one but with a C2Q instead of the x4?
For aftermarket CPU coolers, check here for a benchmark with a number of leaders. I recommend an Ultra 120, Tuniq Tower, or Big Typhoon (used the last two, ultra-120s are often out of stock on newegg).
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| slovach wrote: | | Karakawe wrote: | @slovach, Konata Izumi:
What does it matter, anyway? Most games can't take advantage of quad cores, and many wouldn't need to. If you're going to do extreme overclocking, why not use an E8400/E8600 and get full use of your overclock? Quad-core is overrated right now, unless you're into x264 encoding or are a whore for benchmarks.
My point is, there aren't enough quad-core based games like Crysis to warrant a quad-core processor for only that reason. A C2D E8400 can almost keep up with the Q9770 in this benchmark, so let's not put unnecessary spins on the situation. |
So you'd rather not proof at all for the future, when every upcoming game will likely have proper support? Even if it doesn't, ever think you can MULTITASK? Encoding, virus scanning, whatever, while gaming with your free cores, IMAGINE THAT.
| Konata Izumi wrote: | | slovach wrote: | | Konata Izumi wrote: | | q9550 is better then the q6600. |
Sure as shit not going to be better when the Q6600 is several hundred MHZ ahead of it after a session of savage overclocking. |
then you overclock the q9550 to 3.8 and get 15 more fps. |
You miss the point that it's much harder to overclock the 45nm chips because of their higher FSB. Not to mention the clock for clock difference is within single digit difference percentage wise. |
if the q9550 and the q6600 were at the same speeds, the q9550 would perform much better.
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