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PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 1:25 pm    Post subject: Why you shouldn't build a computer Reply with quote

Yes, okay. Maybe the price is much better. Maybe it is a good learning experience, but there is actually a few big problems.

One is warranty. Usually you don't get good warranties for the parts you buy, unless you pay 50 USD extra. If you get an HP or Dell computer you can just send it back for another one.

Also support, you have to contact Dick, Jane, Bob then Sally at EVGA just to find out it is not their fault it is your hard drives fault. Repeat. Say you buy a computer from Dell, you can just call them instead of 5 companies.

My last, and biggest one ( IMO ) is failure to correctly put something together or you accidentally shocked something/broke etc. If you buy a computer you are assured that you are buying a good stable computer. When you build it, you are not sure on its stability.

Almost all of these happened to me and i seriously hate it. >.> Though i did save almost 1,000 USD!

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 2:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think people are willing to take that risk, even if it does mean not getting good warranties etc because you save a ton of money.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 2:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is true, though sometimes you dont save money. I saw a computer that was better then mine selling for about 300 dollars less by a name-brand company.

I was so sad Sad

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 3:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Why you shouldn't build a computer Reply with quote

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Yes, okay. Maybe the price is much better. Maybe it is a good learning experience, but there is actually a few big problems.


Not quite, sometimes when a deal comes then a OEM based system can be cheaper than building it yourself. What they have that most DIY can't do is get steep discounts on the OS.

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One is warranty. Usually you don't get good warranties for the parts you buy, unless you pay 50 USD extra. If you get an HP or Dell computer you can just send it back for another one.

DIY parts has better warranty than OEM. OEM has a 1 year warranty compared to 3 years or even lifetime on most DIY products. EVGA gives a lifetime warranty on most of their graphic cards as long as you register within 30days of purchase.

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Also support, you have to contact Dick, Jane, Bob then Sally at EVGA just to find out it is not their fault it is your hard drives fault. Repeat. Say you buy a computer from Dell, you can just call them instead of 5 companies.

While I agree with you here that DIY will also need to handle support on their own, but what type of actual service do you really get if you bought yourself a brand name system? Will they put you on hold for like 30 minutes, charge you for tech suppport, or just waste your time because you can't understand a word their saying? Most of them are probably reading from some stupid help book and don't know jack if you ask them to list the steps in detail on how to change the desktop background.
If you need help there is always this place.

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My last, and biggest one ( IMO ) is failure to correctly put something together or you accidentally shocked something/broke etc. If you buy a computer you are assured that you are buying a good stable computer. When you build it, you are not sure on its stability.

Almost all of these happened to me and i seriously hate it. >.> Though i did save almost 1,000 USD!


Before assembly your system, properly ground yourself. Use a ESD wrist stripe (which I find it annoying), or simply touch the metal part of your case before you begin. Never work in a carpet floor area. For stability you will need to do research by reading reviews and so on to see how well that product is.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 4:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

for some people it is a bad idea, i didn't really think about any of that happening and luckily it didn't happen for me when i made my pc
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

we built both our computers and they work great... Cool
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Point 1: Warranty is good on most parts, as long as you buy the retail version. They're usually 3 years or more. But I (and most other overclockers) don't really care too much about warranties, since I'm voiding most all warranties by overclocking computer components.
Point 2: The answer to most all computer hardware issues can be found on the internet. But usually, if you have a good knowledge of computers, you should be fine with troubleshooting problems straight off the top of your head. Even if you don't have another computer at home, you can always go to the library Surprised
Point 3: I've never had a major issue with system stability in that manner (overclocking stability is another thing). After building 5 computers (4 of which were laid down on the carpet), I've never run into messing up my hardware due to static electricity. Just know what you're doing, and be careful.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with all your points but many people are "pros" and for them nothing goes wrong.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The whole voiding warranty thing is crap of bull.

I have NEVER in my life used a single warranty. On anything. Its really all up to the person. Just play it by logic. The only way I would need warranty is if I was overclocking something and I just started out. But, that voids the whole warranty (Mostly on everything that you buy. Wether its company X and Y).

To tell you the truth, I see no drawbacks to building your own computer. Also, if you even thought about building your own computer, chances are that you know a thing or two about computers.

Before I got into computers, I didn't even know you could built them!
Come on, I know I'm not alone here.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another human wrote:


Before I got into computers, I didn't even know you could built them!
Come on, I know I'm not alone here.


True! We all started out as noobs. Smile

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 12:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Building your own computer is a learning experience. You learn a lot more by doing your research and then actually building the thing, than by just going out and buying a box and plugging it in.

Also, people always talk about static but I've never had a problem with it. I've probably handled a good 10,000 computer parts if not more and I've never killed a single one with static. I've never used an ESD strap.

Aftermarket parts typically have a much longer warranty than any OEM will offer. As others have said with OEM you usually get 1-3 years, aftermarket parts typically carry at least a 3 year warranty, sometimes lifetime.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 1:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I normally get fucked over when it comes to getting my stuff repaired under warranties, so I don't have much problem with not having one. And if I have to contact 5 different companies, eventually 1 might say yes. If I call up dell and they deny me, I'm just fucked. And, generally, if your comp fails within the first 3 years of getting it, it's gonna fail in the next 3 years, too, so atleast you know exactly how to fix it.

With regards to static, it depends on your envronment. Like if the air is really dry and stuff, you should think about getting a wristband, or always hold the side of the case. If you ever zap yourself on the doorknob, you're at risk of damaging your parts. Remember, if you buy from a reliable seller (which is highly reccommended), it should be easy just to get a quick replacement if you fucked it up while putting it in. REM, DOA is all it takes.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 7:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

None of this happened to me..

Warranty is better on self build comp... (usually)
Go for kingston lifetime warranties.. Wink

Who would even call tech help? Just search on the web..

And finally.. if something goes wrong, it's your fault. (if you built it..)

As I said, none of this has happened to me,
I have education on "everything IT related"

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 2:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Why you shouldn't build a computer Reply with quote

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Yes, okay. Maybe the price is much better. Maybe it is a good learning experience, but there is actually a few big problems.

One is warranty. Usually you don't get good warranties for the parts you buy, unless you pay 50 USD extra. If you get an HP or Dell computer you can just send it back for another one.

Also support, you have to contact Dick, Jane, Bob then Sally at EVGA just to find out it is not their fault it is your hard drives fault. Repeat. Say you buy a computer from Dell, you can just call them instead of 5 companies.

My last, and biggest one ( IMO ) is failure to correctly put something together or you accidentally shocked something/broke etc. If you buy a computer you are assured that you are buying a good stable computer. When you build it, you are not sure on its stability.

Almost all of these happened to me and i seriously hate it. >.> Though i did save almost 1,000 USD!



You forgot performance all the parts are good compatibility is it is brand name

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