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Thlump Grandmaster Cheater Reputation: 0
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Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 1:06 am Post subject: |
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Zaper wrote: | I've tried 3 times, and every time I try and find the pointers, I get the blue screen of death, but not before I see a pop up with some numbers and stuff in CE, help pl0x? |
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hackerkts Expert Cheater Reputation: 0
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Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 1:27 am Post subject: |
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BSOD is normally caused by the computer itself or your hardware, try to read some information given on the BSOD. _________________
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Plastic Newbie cheater Reputation: 0
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Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 11:30 am Post subject: |
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I am having troubles with finding an offset.
mov [edi+ecx*4+00000334],eax |
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me Grandmaster Cheater Reputation: 2
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Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 1:02 pm Post subject: |
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Plastic wrote: | I am having troubles with finding an offset.
mov [edi+ecx*4+00000334],eax |
whatever is in the ecx register multiply by 4, thats what ecx*4 means
then add it to 334 + whats in the edi register
so lets say
edi = 8
ecx = 2
so (ecx*4) = (2 x 4) = 8
so all together
8 + 8 + 334 = 344 in hex
use the windows calculator in hex mode
to get the hex mode you have to have the use the view menu to put the calculator into scientific mode _________________
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Plastic Newbie cheater Reputation: 0
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Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 12:12 am Post subject: |
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I tried what you said, and it still gives me some odd numbers when I add the pointer to the list with the offset I ended up with.
Could you tell me when you end up with? I got E0DD5C for the offset. Am I wrong? If so what did I do wrong. |
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me Grandmaster Cheater Reputation: 2
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Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 1:14 am Post subject: |
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try E0DA00 as your pointer and put 35C in the offset box (334 + 4xA)
I made a typo and said add them all together instead of adding the offsets,
but E0DD5C was not the offset that was the full address with the offsets added,
in tsearch you do it that way because you have to add the offsets manually, thats the mistake I made here was telling you how to do it manually,
if you put E0DD5C in with no offset that would normally take you to the right address,
but anyway try
E0DA00: offset: 35C
keep in mind it may be a multilevel pointer,
but as a matter of interest is it a health or ammo address ?
if its ammo what happens when you nop
5bfa67 sub eax,edx
if its a health address does it make everythings health stop decreasing if its nop'ed
I'm guessing it might be an ammo address as edx is holding 1 so its either sub 1 bullet/grenaded or whatever weapon you have or you got subbed 1 life and have 29 lives left
but I go with the ammo idea with that amount in eax,
try nopping the line of code 5bfa67 sub eax,edx if its an ammo address,
but try the pointer + offset as well of course _________________
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hackerkts Expert Cheater Reputation: 0
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Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 1:52 am Post subject: |
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me wrote: | try E0DA00 as your pointer and put 35C in the offset box (344+ 4xA) |
Typo? _________________
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me Grandmaster Cheater Reputation: 2
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Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 1:55 am Post subject: |
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hackerkts wrote: | me wrote: | try E0DA00 as your pointer and put 35C in the offset box (344+ 4xA) |
Typo? |
fixed
thanks mate I must concentrate harder lol _________________
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Plastic Newbie cheater Reputation: 0
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Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 2:09 am Post subject: |
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Yes this was for ammo. I was asking a few friends about it too, they said I should just nop the sub address and I did, it worked. But I was wondering more about the pointer because it is confusing me, I might come across something like this later and not be able to just nop it. I tried to make the pointer E0DA00 with the offset 35C, didn't work gave me ?? instead of a correct value.
I'm not too sure about multilevel pointers, I haven't tried to look too much into them. Not sure what else to try, would this be a multilevel pointer? |
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hackerkts Expert Cheater Reputation: 0
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Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 2:14 am Post subject: |
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Try right click on it, and check what read on the pointer.
I'm still learning tho.. =o _________________
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me Grandmaster Cheater Reputation: 2
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Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 2:18 am Post subject: |
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well for now at least you got infinite ammo eh,
if you find your ammo again like you did the first time, then put a breakpoint on it and see if the pointer is still E0DA00 then it would be a pretty stable pointer,
if you get something different from E0DA00 then its going to be a multilevel pointer, of course you have to use the same weapon to as the first time you found E0DA00
you can try using the pointer scanner by right clicking the address and using that and see if it finds a few pointers,
anyway that should do for this game, just look around the pointer section again there is some info on multilevel stuff here _________________
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hackerkts Expert Cheater Reputation: 0
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Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 2:30 am Post subject: |
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My turn to ask question about pointer
I found the address already, and check what writes on it. This is what I got:
Then I went to search for the hex value of 018D52F0, it found 739 addresses. None of the address was green (can I assume that it's a multi-level pointer, cos no green addy means no static addy?). I just pick the first addy, I right click on it, and check what writes on it, and the value becomes ?? O_O"
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Plastic Newbie cheater Reputation: 0
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Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 2:38 am Post subject: |
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Try to do the pointer scanner, I just found what I was looking for in about 10 minutes from the past 2 days.
Edit:
Another question, I have found health for the game I am playing, same as before. It has 3 pointers just like ammo. I added them all to the list and froze the three pointers and I still die. Any suggestions? |
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me Grandmaster Cheater Reputation: 2
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Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 8:16 am Post subject: |
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you might just be changing the screen display health,
the real health address may be a different value, try using a float instead of 4 byte scan,
if that dont work try other types of scan instead of 4 byte,
if that still dont work try unknown initial value/decrease/decrease ect
or even unknown initial value/increase/increase as your health goes down,
well thats enough private tutoring for one game lol _________________
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Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 8:54 am Post subject: |
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hackerkts wrote: | My turn to ask question about pointer
I found the address already, and check what writes on it. This is what I got:
Then I went to search for the hex value of 018D52F0, it found 739 addresses. None of the address was green (can I assume that it's a multi-level pointer, cos no green addy means no static addy?). I just pick the first addy, I right click on it, and check what writes on it, and the value becomes ?? O_O"
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no addres green?, is possible a pointer next level , no always is only level 1 _________________
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