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I would recommend getting at least a 4GB ram because most of the new computers now a days are running on 3GB+. NVM your getting a small case. 
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You don't need much more RAM unless you are doing serious CAD applications, photo editing, video editing, etc. 2GB is enough.
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Motherboard: Gigabyte EP31-DS3L
CPU: Intel Pentium Dual Core E2180 2GHz
GPU: Gigabyte GeForce 8800GT 256MB
The motherboard is just better, and since you won't be using the onboard graphics, you won't need it as part of your motherboard.
I chose the slower CPU because $20 is a ~33% price difference between the E2180 and the E2220. They are both good, but the E2180 just seems more value for your money.
The GPU is quite a step-up from the one your suggested, the 8800GT is 2x faster than an 8600GT.
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I would go ahead and put the new HD in the new computer.
Otherwise, you would have to remove all of the old drivers for your old computer and then install the new ones for the newer hardware.
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| WiCk3DxT wrote: | | I would recommend getting at least a 4GB ram because most of the new computers now a days are running on 3GB+. NVM your getting a small case. |
i dont think it matters about how big the case is. i think it depends on the motherboard correct me if im wrong
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| Quote: | | I would recommend getting at least a 4GB ram because most of the new computers now a days are running on 3GB+. NVM your getting a small case. |
The RAM will probably be the first thing I upgrade when I get some cash. Especially since it's so cheap nowadays.
The form factor of the mobo is micro-atx, and I didn't see a big micro-atx with a power supply and good reviews that was in my budget.
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I was looking at that card first, but it was pcie 2.0, but the mobo wasn't. I know the cards are backwards compatible, but I remember reading something about them sometimes not working. And I didn't think it would help that much. Graphics cards throw me, though because the numbers seem to not mean anything. I thought 512MB@128b would be better than 256MB@256b.
Although this computer is pretty cheap, I want it to last a while. That's why I didn't want to go for anything below 2.5 dualcore. but the 2.5 was 140, so I figured I take that small bump-down for $35.
What's the difference between the mobos? They seem to be about the same to me.
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If it ends up being too much of a hassle, I may have to do that. It would take me days to get a new HD to be like my old, so I'm hoping it'll be worth it to fuck around with the drivers
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Almost all current applications on their own don't use much more than 1GB of RAM, even Crysis, at the most, takes up slightly over 1024MB of RAM (tested myself). With other programs running, 2GB should keep your computer running smoothly, at least under XP. Go with 4GB if you want, just don't spend too much money on the RAM ($80< is a no-no).
PCI-e 2.0 graphics card are backwards compatible. I have a similar setup (GA-P35-DS3L, EVGA 8800GS), and it works perfectly. If it doesn't work, then it's most likely another problem, not because of the interface.
An E2180 + Gigabyte P31/P35 = very good overclocking (3GHz), even without a third party CPU cooler. Get the E2220 if you like, but I would save the money and use it elsewhere.
The motherboard I chose is better because it is full size ATX (more expansion slots), 4 RAM DIMMs, and has better onboard sound (7.1 surround support compared to 5.1 surround).
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I'm gonna go for the 8800gt and the other motherboard.
The case that I'm looking at has a 400w power supply, will that be enough for this? And the mobo takes a 24 pin power connector, and the case says it has a 20+4 pin. Is that the same thing or no?
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| You should get at max 3GB of RAM. A 32-bit (x86) OS can only use up to 3GB of RAM. Any higher would be a waste, unless you wanna switch to a 64-bit OS. A decent graphic card (GeForce 9600GT is only $100). The CPU doesn't really matter. You won't be getting a Quad core so saving $80 by getting something that's 0.2-0.3 GHz less is a pretty good deal.
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| rapion124 wrote: | | You should get at max 3GB of RAM. A 32-bit (x86) OS can only use up to 3GB of RAM. Any higher would be a waste, unless you wanna switch to a 64-bit OS. A decent graphic card (GeForce 9600GT is only $100). The CPU doesn't really matter. You won't be getting a Quad core so saving $80 by getting something that's 0.2-0.3 GHz less is a pretty good deal. |
A 32-bit motherboard can only map about 3GB as system memory, but it can utilize all of it.
The 8800GT I recommended was $70.
Yes, the CPU does matter. Quite a lot too. At your budget, a quad core is out of the question.
I have doubts about the Rosewill PSU that comes with the case. It's more of a no-name brand, but 400W will be sufficient.
20+4 does not equal 24 in this case. There are 20 pin connectors, and there are 4 pin connectors. They are 2 different types.
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